Troy doesn't own the rights to the DWUW video ------

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However, if there's someone to blame for the DWUW video not being released, it's Troy. There might be more people involved, but Troy was definitely partly responsible for the whole DWUW mess.

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You're right.

Troy was her manager. A manager is responsible for ensuring that projects are planned and executed in time, and for developing a good promotional schedule. He didn't finance any video or performance.

Exactly, videos AREN'T HIS JOB

Scheduling for the videos or planning events around the time of the video release, sure

But making it? No

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Putting on some weird clothes isn't the same factor of shock as a meat dress or blood on stage tho

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Millie Brown says hi

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However, if there's someone to blame for the DWUW video not being released, it's Troy. There might be more people involved, but Troy was definitely partly responsible for the whole DWUW mess.

But you can't blame him when you don't know who barred it

For all you know, it could have been Gaga refusing to release it or not even finishing filming because she didn't want it

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Yes, people on this site STILL claim that Troy owns DWUW, as well as individuals on ATRL and gagadaily

They claim the release was barred due to his ownership

Basically Gaga can do no wrong to them

Honestly though, the DWUW thing with Gaga's explanation is complete fabrication imo because she discussed and tweeted how Applause was weeks of work, and then later tweeted saying it was less than a week

No matter which it is, she lied, and therefore, until the whole track record is revealed, I have no reason to believe that's the reasoning behind it's elimination from Vevo

 

Totally the first I've ever heard of this :megaflop:

 

And honestly no one knows the actual reason(though I still think R.Kelly was involved some how) and I can't even be bothered anymore, not even sure why people still care tbh

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Totally the first I've ever heard of this :megaflop:

And honestly no one knows the actual reason(though I still think R.Kelly was involved some how) and I can't even be bothered anymore, not even sure why people still care tbh

Someone ITT just blamed him :megaflop:

I'd like the video to be her with no R. Kelly, but I know that's impossible

Or at least to him be on another set while filming

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I honestly feel it might be the third

It's very easy to tell the public something they'd want to hear, but the way Troy acted and has talked about it in interviews showcases that it may not have been an issue with it himself, but rather, an issue with Gaga and someone else

The only reason Gaga never trash talked Troy or vice versa DIRECTLY, is that they both want to avoid further controversy and media bull**** towards the issue, as it was a very sensitive one.

Gaga didn't fire Troy for nothing. If it was a small argument, it would've been resolved. But the fact that they split shows that there was a major issue, one being aggravated progressively over time, ever since her hip injury.

There might be other people involved, but Troy was the main villain in this whole mess of an era TBVH

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Someone ITT just blamed him :megaflop:

I'd like the video to be her with no R. Kelly, but I know that's impossible

Or at least to him be on another set while filming

Oh I know people blame him, I just meant I'd never heard of the "rights ownership" argument before today.

 

Or better still with Xtina, but neither is happening and I've made peace with it :emo:

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The only reason Gaga never trash talked Troy or vice versa DIRECTLY, is that they both want to avoid further controversy and media bull**** towards the issue, as it was a very sensitive one.

Gaga didn't fire Troy for nothing. If it was a small argument, it would've been resolved. But the fact that they split shows that there was a major issue, one being aggravated progressively over time, ever since her hip injury.

There might be other people involved, but Troy was the main villain in this whole mess of an era TBVH

I don't think he's to really blame solely, it also was in part Gaga's fault too, and you have to admit that

You'll never know what it was, but just know, it takes two to argue

Oh I know people blame him, I just meant I'd never heard of the "rights ownership" argument before today.

Or better still with Xtina, but neither is happening and I've made peace with it :emo:

Well now you have

I'm over ARTPOP as a whole and am waiting for the next two album cycles to go through before I can actually get into her again

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But you can't blame him when you don't know who barred it

For all you know, it could have been Gaga refusing to release it or not even finishing filming because she didn't want it

Get that hit thread

Well of course, as monsters, we're all sometimes prejudiced and love everything Gaga gives us. That's why we like the DWUW video 'leaks'. But Gaga probably wasn't self satisfied with her work. And we know Gaga is a perfectionist. She had planned a video for Venus, it was her fav song and she was very creative with the covers and performances, so she obviously had st cooking. But the single change at the eleventh hour was MESSED up. Even though I prefer DWUW as a single, but it must have been horrible for Gaga to plan performances and a video for DWUW within a week mind you, it was so messed up, that album covers had been printed with 'including singles Applause Nd Venus' already and many people were confused because of that single change.

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Well of course, as monsters, we're all sometimes prejudiced and love everything Gaga gives us. That's why we like the DWUW video 'leaks'. But Gaga probably wasn't self satisfied with her work. And we know Gaga is a perfectionist. She had planned a video for Venus, it was her fav song and she was very creative with the covers and performances, so she obviously had st cooking. But the single change at the eleventh hour was MESSED up. Even though I prefer DWUW as a single, but it must have been horrible for Gaga to plan performances and a video for DWUW within a week mind you, it was so messed up, that album covers had been printed with 'including singles Applause Nd Venus' already and many people were confused because of that single change.

Venus was written much later though

She even said she wanted it to be the single which is why they switched it :emma:

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I don't think he's to really blame solely, it also was in part Gaga's fault too, and you have to admit that

You'll never know what it was, but just know, it takes two to argue

Well now you have

I'm over ARTPOP as a whole and am waiting for the next two album cycles to go through before I can actually get into her again

Gaga's fault was obeying Troy a d hyping us up just to disappoint us in the end.

I believe she was extremely honest with us on LM. Com about the whole issue. She was mentally shaken because of the whole fiasco herself. She had so many dreams for this era, and it ended up turning into the biggest mess in her whole career :NOOO:

I am extremely sad myself. It's my fav album. EVER. But it hurts to say that I want this era to end as soon as possible :( :emo:

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Gaga's fault was obeying Troy a d hyping us up just to disappoint us in the end.

I believe she was extremely honest with us on LM. Com about the whole issue. She was mentally shaken because of the whole fiasco herself. She had so many dreams for this era, and it ended up turning into the biggest mess in her whole career :NOOO:

I am extremely sad myself. It's my fav album. EVER. But it hurts to say that I want this era to end as soon as possible :( :emo:

I can only objectively agree with the last part

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Since when do managers own material of an artist. :awkney: