Art is open to interpretation, yeah?

[tokyodisko 0]

So why is Demi "wrong" in what she interpreted the performance as?

I've seen a lot of comments online and on Tumblr saying people also felt like it had to do with bulimia, even if the song was not praising it. I even thought of it the first time I watched it.

It's how she, and many others, connected to the issue, feel about the performance- so why do some users feel the need to put her down, call her fat, and a stupid bxtch? That just speaks to the maturity and shallowness of those people.

 

I do not think either Gaga or Demi is wrong or right. They are interpreting a piece differently. The artist's intention is NOT something everyone has to see in a piece. 

 

Yet the same users bend over backwards to defend Gaga when she does or doesn't interpret something the same way it was perhaps intended- "It's art! It can mean anything." 

Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me. 

 

Eating disorders are a very serious issue and if a large number of people think that it in some way uses ED as a form of shock. 

 

I've noticed about 99% of the people calling Demi stupid or fat are relatively fit gay boys---

You realize eating disorders are now a very large part ingrained in gay culture, right?

And that they are NOT healthy? That people really should raise awareness for them?

Get over your personal bias and realize the bigger issue. 

 

Before you start bxtching, no, I'm not a Demi fan. No, I don't think the puke was offensive, but I don't think anyone should be put down for standing up for a serious issue that is often ignored otherwise. 

[Essence 232]

Even Gaga said that she loves that people debate about whether things are art or not, because that is ENTIRELY the point of performance art.

[PoshLife 16,980]

I understand you're not happy with the way your opinion on the matter was received here yesterday, but making yet another thread about this controversy is inappropriate and, at this point, unproductive.

 

My final thought on the matter is that, as I said before, Demi is welcome to get offended by whatever she likes (and I support her cause 100%), but her indignation on this particular instance is due to her own (mis)interpretation of a performance she may or may not have actually seen. Art is up for interpretation as you said, but when you use your own - not the artist's - interpretation to get angry, that's simply nonsensical.

[Poker 3,712]

Is not that the way she interpreted the performance 'was wrong'. It's wrong because she said that it wasn't art. Who is she? the Art Police? lolbye

[IAmTheX 0]

Maybe once people will understand bulimia's point is not on puking, but in feeling you're fatter than you actually are. It's a mental disorder. And puking on stage is not trying to make people be bulimic. What makes people suffer from bulimia is not seeing someone puke, it's the way this business makes us feel only slim people are beautiful. THAT is the point on bulimia. 

 

Gaga's point with that puke was saying that she's like a canvas, and she can transform herself to be any kind of art. Exactly as when she had the face painted on Applause. It's the same as if instead of Millie, it would've been a normal painter and they have painted on her with a brush.

[tokyodisko 0]

I understand you're not happy with the way your opinion on the matter was received here yesterday, but making yet another thread about this controversy is inappropriate and, at this point, unproductive.

 

My final thought on the matter is that, as I said before, Demi is welcome to get offended by whatever she likes (and I support her cause 100%), but her indignation on this particular instance is due to her own (mis)interpretation of a performance she may or may not have actually seen. Art is up for interpretation as you said, but when you use your own - not the artist's - interpretation to get angry, that's simply nonsensical.

That's exactly the opposite of art being open to interpretation though. You don't need to do damage control for Gaga. 

And that is still no excuse for the way some fans were reacting to the issue. 

[Bye 3,947]

I understand you're not happy with the way your opinion on the matter was received here yesterday, but making yet another thread about this controversy is inappropriate and, at this point, unproductive.

 

My final thought on the matter is that, as I said before, Demi is welcome to get offended by whatever she likes (and I support her cause 100%), but her indignation on this particular instance is due to her own (mis)interpretation of a performance she may or may not have actually seen. Art is up for interpretation as you said, but when you use your own - not the artist's - interpretation to get angry, that's simply nonsensical.

Is not that the way she interpreted the performance 'was wrong'. It's wrong because she said that it wasn't art. Who is she? the Art Police? lolbye

 

Maybe once people will understand bulimia's point is not on puking, but in feeling you're fatter than you actually are. It's a mental disorder. And puking on stage is not trying to make people be bulimic. What makes people suffer from bulimia is not seeing someone puke, it's the way this business makes us feel only slim people are beautiful. THAT is the point on bulimia. 

 

Quoting these for truth.

[Sister 9,907]

Well sure she can interpret it as such, unless Gaga clearly defines what she was making visual. People with that disorder would feel the same kind of disgust, ugliness and shame, so Yes, I guess it could trigger those feelings in someone who has experienced it. I'd never call Demi any bad things, we are all seeing these things together and taking our own from them. But, Gaga DID allude to the song as being about rape before she got started, so I would think that she told us because that is what she was painting her feelings of through this performance.

[TheOriginalOne 10,653]

People disagreed with her but I did not see anyone here call her a stupid fat b---h.

[tokyodisko 0]

Is not that the way she interpreted the performance 'was wrong'. It's wrong because she said that it wasn't art. Who is she? the Art Police? lolbye

That's part of art though- debating if it is in fact art or in this case for shock value. 

[Harry 26,836]

I don't think she was interpreting it though. She was saying it's unacceptable, not art and wrong. She said Gaga shouldn't be doing that..

[Poker 3,712]

I don't think she was interpreting it though. She was saying it's unacceptable, not art and wrong. She said Gaga shouldn't be doing that..

Exactly.

[hoeslay 4,173]

I agree. That IS the point. I bring up the Applause reference again "is it right or is it wrong?". At the end of the day - it's ART. It's ARTPOP. Some people will get offended, some people will embrace it.

[PoshLife 16,980]

That's exactly the opposite of art being open to interpretation though. You don't need to do damage control for Gaga. 

And that is still no excuse for the way some fans were reacting to the issue. 

Honestly I think it's gotten to the point where you're simplifying my opinion to make it fit your talking points. I did not say art isn't open to interpretation. Actually I said the opposite. But if Demi's getting insulted based on her own interpretation, that's on her and not on Gaga. It is not Gaga's job to anticipate other people's own interpretations of her art. As the artist, she has her own agenda, her own point of view, and her own message. That's on her. Anything else that happens is the consumer's choice.

[tokyodisko 0]

People disagreed with her but I did not see anyone here call her a stupid fat b---h.

Really?? I think some of the comments eventually got removed. Twitter was full of them though. Things like "cut deeper" and "ur still fat". 

Even some comments on a neutral article on Buzzfeed earlier had a bunch of LM talking shxt to people who also felt like Demi's poin of view made sense. That's what sparked this.