Retep 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 But Katy isn't part of the Islamic religion, why should she be afraid of what is or isn't forbidden? This is just a whole other can of worms. She is a well recognized pop star world wide who has a platform to create and distribute messages, as such she should adhere to being respectful of cultures and norms throughout the world (just as many expect for themselves). She by no means has to, however that raises a question on her ethics. While I don't think (or hope) your comment was saying that people shouldn't at least respect on another's opinions and beliefs (no necessarily accept/believe them by any means), I will say that her as well as her team should've looked into symbols used and its importance to a culture. Where she's further hurt is her past comment on the use of what she considered 'blasphemy' in Alejandro. I'm really curious to see how her team will react/clean this up I'll be surprised if they do, with all the heat on Katy right now it'll just hurt her more. IF the petition does anything, I just see Capitol removing the video and re-editing to the best of their abilities. That way they have a product (which they already spent money on) and addressed the concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavymlover 340 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) If Looking Hot received all the negative backlash and was ultimately removed from YouTube, I think there are enough reasons to support the removal of Dark Horse. You guys should stay out of these though. We don't want this to backfire on Judas or Alejandro. Edited February 25, 2014 by heavymlover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'll be surprised if they do, with all the heat on Katy right now it'll just hurt her more. IF the petition does anything, I just see Capitol removing the video and re-editing to the best of their abilities. That way they have a product (which they already spent money on) and addressed the concern. Not only that, but all the bad press she's been having recently Idk if they've ever had to deal with it for her during any eras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife 6,652 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 This is just a whole other can of worms. She is a well recognized pop star world wide who has a platform to create and distribute messages, as such she should adhere to being respectful of cultures and norms throughout the world (just as many expect for themselves). She by no means has to, however that raises a question on her ethics. While I don't think (or hope) your comment was saying that people shouldn't at least respect on another's opinions and beliefs (no necessarily accept/believe them by any means), I will say that her as well as her team should've looked into symbols used and its importance to a culture. Where she's further hurt is her past comment on the use of what she considered 'blasphemy' in Alejandro. I'll be surprised if they do, with all the heat on Katy right now it'll just hurt her more. IF the petition does anything, I just see Capitol removing the video and re-editing to the best of their abilities. That way they have a product (which they already spent money on) and addressed the concern. I don't necessarily believe in obligated respect of opinions or beliefs, I do of people, but not of their mere ideas or ways of thinking. But this discussion is about Katy's team, not my personal philosophies. It's still a gray area for even myself and is best kept for a different thread at a different time. Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retep 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I mean I get why it's upsetting but it's not like they're burning him at the stake for wearing it or something. He just was wearing it whne everyone else was also getting killed lol The point is that they killed a man while he was wearing a sacred symbol to the Islamic faith which shouldn't be desecrated, in addition by killing the man they also destroyed the symbol which Katy then technically put in her mouth as a grill. It'd be similar for you if the happened to kill a white male with long brown hair wearing a crown of thorns and then using his remains in some disrespectful way. You may not take offense in terms of religion, but someone else may who's a practicing Catholic or Christian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 It is being spread across the Ummah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathantj594 901 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Signed! And Paula Abdul ain’t got [BLEEP] on me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavymlover 340 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I just don't know if Katy's team is just very naive or if they are just trying to spark some controvery. Like, this era she has faced some negativity towards her visual choices. Do you remember for example that performance with the Japanese theme? I remember lots of people calling the performance an ignorant stereotype. I'm not sure if they are simply throwing random historical references without actually doing some research, or if the whole purpose is to gain some more views and headlines. It is interesting, nevertheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Judas had its time and was bashed by Katy though You mean Alejandro. Not Judas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 If the ICONIC, LEGENDARY video for Looking Hot was taken down, I really hope this is too. It was not censored. No Doubt decided to knuckle under to PC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 41,607 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I can't believe they did that "Rat Boy's a nasty, trashy, sleazy, classless"- River Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retep 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Not only that, but all the bad press she's been having recently Idk if they've ever had to deal with it for her during any eras Maybe for IKAG and Ur So Gay, but both of those were barely recognized really. She just went out and explained the song itself and somehow it blew over. The only real bad press she had with TD with memory was how her team was taking advantage of the Hot 100 rules to have her match MJ's record. I remember two super slight ones too, one with her sensationalizing s-x to teens with TD and then her sensationalizing the US Army with Part of Me. Both didn't produce as much backlash as this has and has the ability to though. Plus with this happening around the time with her assistant lashing out and her being late to that fashions show it definitely elevates everything further. Edited February 25, 2014 by Retep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Papa 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 its also completely packed with illumine symbolism :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Np thank you for reminding me I knew I forgot something And it's haram isn't it? You aren't supposed to disgrace Allah and his name Yes. That word is a word of enormous power. This could indeed be seen as an attack not on the word Allah, but on Allah Himself :megaflop: Oh, Katy.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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