Lets Party 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Everytime a celebrity goes to Israel it is reported to high heavens by their media and is used to try and show the rest of the world that they are a normal state that anyone can visit . This is far from the truth , the place is very segregated and the concert will also be segregated as it is an apartheid state , the Palestinians will be not allowed In. For those of you who think she should go for the fans, the fans she will be performing for are those that are the privileged in an apartheid state (Israeli Jews). People from Gaza are not permitted to enter Tel Aviv, her Palestinian fans are under being illegally detained by the Israeli army. Trust me on this it is an important issue and I wouldn't place importance on it unless it was. No moral person should support Israel's economy until they no longer carry out racial segregation and apartheid on the Palestinians. Israel still applies 20 laws that privilege Jews over Arabs. For example, the 1950 Law of Return grants automatic citizenship rights to Jews from anywhere in the world upon request, while denying that same right to Palestinians Government resources, meanwhile, are disproportionately directed to Jews and not to Arabs, one factor in causing the Palestinians of Israel to suffer the lowest living standards in Israeli society by all economic indicators. Human Rights Watch has compiled an extensive study of Israel's policy of "separate, not equal" schools for Palestinian children, finding that "Government-run Arab schools are a world apart from government-run Jewish schools. In virtually every respect, Palestinian Arab children get an education inferior to that of Jewish children, and their relatively poor performance in school reflects this." As many as 100 Palestinian villages in Israel, many of which pre-date the founding of the state, are not recognized by the Israeli government, and are not listed on maps and receive no services (water, electricity, sanitation, roads, etc.) from the government. More than 70,000 Palestinians live in these unrecognized villages. Meanwhile, hundreds of new Jewish towns have been established on lands confiscated from Palestinians. This country goes against everything Gaga has stood for and is being boycotted by many influential moral people around the world and Gaga should do the same, sometimes the moral thing is more important than the money. Years from now when Palestine is free, just like when south African apartheid ended people will look back at those that supported Israel and supported their economy and will see just how detrimental they were to the peace talks. I know the easy thing for us to do would be to ignore all this but we have to try to do our part to help make the world a better place Here is a petition that you could sign if you also feel the same way : https://www.change.org/petitions/lady-gaga-don-t-play-apartheid-israel-this-summer-boycott-apartheid-israel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecano 1 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Sad to know but I don't think they'll cancel her show unless the sales are underwhelming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravenewworld 153 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I agree with you in 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Josh 3 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Do we really need to mix politics in this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gangsta 49 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 tl;dr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Sad to know but I don't think they'll cancel her show unless the sales are underwhelming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets Party 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Do we really need to mix politics in this? This is lady gaga we are talking about, she is not some basic b---h that turns up performs and gets paid. She actually has morals and stands for the rights of those being persecuted throughout her career. She should do the same in regards to Israel, just like how she was calling for a boycott of Russia for their treatment of Gays, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymonster 8,581 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Tho I defs agree with you, I also think that NOT going would also go against everything she stands for. I think she gets fired up with things like this, because she wants to provide entertainment to her fans, regardless of the political situation they are in. It will be a freeing experience for them. She's also said politics and her music will also always be separate. I think she should still do the show for the sake of her fans, but hopefully she'll also raise awareness about the situation as well, kind of like she did with Russia! I think cancelling tho would just be another shot to the groin for her fans there. tl;dr What a stupid post in an intelligent thread.. :later: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets Party 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Tho I defs agree with you, I also think that NOT going would also go against everything she stands for. I think she gets fired up with things like this, because she wants to provide entertainment to her fans, regardless of the political situation they are in. It will be a freeing experience for them. She's also said politics and her music will also always be separate. I think she should still do the show for the sake of her fans, but hopefully she'll also raise awareness about the situation as well, kind of like she did with Russia! You are missing the point, the people she will be performing for are Israeli citizens, there will no Palestinian fans allowed in or any gaza fans allowed in as they are being illegally detained under the state of Israel behind the walls built to separate them from the rest of the land. She will be performing to a segregated crowd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Agree! Annie Lennox, artist and human activist is boycotting Israel for the same reason! And her child is half-jewish so it's not any "anti-semitism" or whatever. Many celebs joined the cause & canceled their visits to Israel. Gaga is ready to boycott Russia cause of it's treatment of gays and she has huge number of fans there. Why should Israel be different? There are human rights being violated & she would support that. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,196 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 ARE YOU SERIOUS? You're so antisemic and you make the people here to think that Israel is a third world country, and it's officially NOT! Don't listen to him, he is an idiot and I can say that because he make people think bad things at us! Gaga preformed in Israel in 2009 and the show was great! Just great! You are not a monster cause a monster needs to promote kindness and love to others. The situation here is not as you described here, we know that if we'll accept the palatines they do in the streets bad things and terror, the hate us. You are stupidCan you please DELETE this thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymonster 8,581 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 You are missing the point, the people she will be performing for are Israeli citizens, there will no Palestinian fans allowed in or any gaza fans allowed in as they are being illegally detained under the state of Israel behind the walls built to separate them from the rest of the land. She will be performing to a segregated crowd Again, I do agree. But who's to say their won't be some fans in the people that ARE allowed to go there. I think it's disgusting that Palestinian fans won't be able to go, but I feel like she wouldn't be the type of artist to go there and not make awareness of the situation there. Everywhere she goes, she causes a stir in terms of human rights. I just have a feeling she could somehow use this to raise awareness or bring change. But I totally understand your point too :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets Party 0 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 ARE YOU SERIOUS? You're so antisemic and you make the people here to think that Israel is a third world country, and it's officially NOT! Don't listen to him, he is an idiot and I can say that because he make people think bad things at us! Gaga preformed in Israel in 2009 and the show was great! Just great! You are not a monster cause a monster needs to promote kindness and love to others. The situation here is not as you described here, we know that if we'll accept the palatines they do in the streets bad things and terror, the hate us. You are stupid Being against the apartheid state of Israel doesn't make us anti-Semitic. You are so quick to throw that word around when it comes to any criticism or your countries treatment towards the Palestinians. It is exactly the fact that I am a monster that i care so much about this, maybe you should do the same but i see you signed up just to say this so you tell me who really isnt the real monster. Your last statement is so silly and so prejudiced that i'm not even going to bother entertaining it and can leave people to see it for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Venus 473 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 ARE YOU SERIOUS? You're so antisemic and you make the people here to think that Israel is a third world country, and it's officially NOT! Don't listen to him, he is an idiot and I can say that because he make people think bad things at us! Gaga preformed in Israel in 2009 and the show was great! Just great! You are not a monster cause a monster needs to promote kindness and love to others. The situation here is not as you described here, we know that if we'll accept the palatines they do in the streets bad things and terror, the hate us. You are stupid Can you please DELETE this thread? Calling him an idiot is #promotingonlinekindness i see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 ARE YOU SERIOUS? You're so antisemic and you make the people here to think that Israel is a third world country, and it's officially NOT! Don't listen to him, he is an idiot and I can say that because he make people think bad things at us! Gaga preformed in Israel in 2009 and the show was great! Just great! You are not a monster cause a monster needs to promote kindness and love to others. The situation here is not as you described here, we know that if we'll accept the palatines they do in the streets bad things and terror, the hate us. You are stupid Arabs are semites too and he's not antisemitic. That is your only excuse. Talk to the Human rights watch & united nations about all rules of war which you broke. Even unnarmed people on ships who are bringing aid to Palestinians are being shot to death by your army. There is some good excuse for that too. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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