Shadow 6,625 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Truth be told. :cry: Do your own research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbuHassan1992 766 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 damn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 To be fair though I can see why they would all want to move on. I guess working for a pop star would have you limited to expressing your own ideas since you're ultimately working under somebody else's creative vision. People like Matthew and Nicola are creatives themselves so it's natural they would feel the need to move on so they could do their own thing. Especially since having 'worked with Lady Gaga on X and Y' on their resume instantly opens a lot of doors... I just hope that they are all still on good terms and would be open to more collaborations in the future. Plus it's not like they are the only brilliant people Gaga knows/will ever know. She still creates magic and she will still continue to in the future :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosexual123 859 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 OK, this is my view on the topic: During TF/TFM era Gaga was hungry for success, she was starving. You can hear it in interviews, she talks about hard work, and passion and doing it for the art, and how much she suffered, and how much she still has to give... She had a fire. She worked hard, was smart, met the right people, had the right outlook, references, inspiration, ideas, friends... Her people/record label/managers saw this. They supported her by giving her the best people to be around her. They gave her their all. Because she was selling so well and doing so good (both her own merit and a good team). It all worked fine. Until, the people around her felt that Gaga was taking all the credit, (you know how she likes to let the public know how involved she is... which I don't doubt I just feel it makes her team feel bad). Come BTW, TEOG... these people (LAGibson...etc...) start telling her what she should and shouldn't do, how and when and why... not because they were egotistical but because it was their job. Gaga, feeling on top of the world right off the success of Bad Romance etc... decided not to listen to them anymore (and I guess she was right, you should not be a slave to what people tell you to do aka Britney Spears...) and things started derailing since then... The same happened with Troy... he was just doing his job, he probably wanted Gaga to sell herself out to this supermarket, world promotion tour, interviews, events, sponsorships etc... to promote ARTPOP, just like he has done before, but Gaga felt she didn't need these kind of tactics anymore of course she is THE Lady Gaga... Plus now she has Taylor, which grounds her down... she has money, fame, fashion, beauty, famous friends designers, video directors, artists... what is keeping her going... well... I feel that not much is! Especially after being operated on and suffering with that and with addiction and trying to cope with fame... In a way its really good she has Taylor, he is keeping her sane, human... which she is, she is just that: Human. I am in no way dissing Gaga or saying bad things, I just feel she needs to find that fire again, find the humility in herself to let other people have input on her work, not let them take over, but at least listen to them... be humble and fierce. ARTPOP for me is a great record, I listen to it everyday and music wise it's really cool... I feel. But yeah, the lack of fantasy, accompanying it, Gaga's 100 percent commitment to it (instead of going to Galas and fashion shows... being depressed, being with Taylor and doing other stuff at the same time as "promoting" the album... during TF/TFM era EVERYTHING she ever did was related to the album... she worked really really really hard.) I feel all of this has kept ARTPOP from being what it should have been, pop amazingness, global domination, performances, ideas, interviews, fashion, trips, tour etc etc... Anyways, don't worry guys, its Gaga, she is amazing, she will get her **** together how she always has and do what she feels she needs to. Let's trust her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justiceleague 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 OK, this is my view on the topic: During TF/TFM era Gaga was hungry for success, she was starving. You can hear it in interviews, she talks about hard work, and passion and doing it for the art, and how much she suffered, and how much she still has to give... She had a fire. She worked hard, was smart, met the right people, had the right outlook, references, inspiration, ideas, friends... Her people/record label/managers saw this. They supported her by giving her the best people to be around her. They gave her their all. Because she was selling so well and doing so good (both her own merit and a good team). It all worked fine. Until, the people around her felt that Gaga was taking all the credit, (you know how she likes to let the public know how involved she is... which I don't doubt I just feel it makes her team feel bad). Come BTW, TEOG... these people (LAGibson...etc...) start telling her what she should and shouldn't do, how and when and why... not because they were egotistical but because it was their job. Gaga, feeling on top of the world right off the success of Bad Romance etc... decided not to listen to them anymore (and I guess she was right, you should not be a slave to what people tell you to do aka Britney Spears...) and things started derailing since then... The same happened with Troy... he was just doing his job, he probably wanted Gaga to sell herself out to this supermarket, world promotion tour, interviews, events, sponsorships etc... to promote ARTPOP, just like he has done before, but Gaga felt she didn't need these kind of tactics anymore of course she is THE Lady Gaga... Plus now she has Taylor, which grounds her down... she has money, fame, fashion, beauty, famous friends designers, video directors, artists... what is keeping her going... well... I feel that not much is! Especially after being operated on and suffering with that and with addiction and trying to cope with fame... In a way its really good she has Taylor, he is keeping her sane, human... which she is, she is just that: Human. I am in no way dissing Gaga or saying bad things, I just feel she needs to find that fire again, find the humility in herself to let other people have input on her work, not let them take over, but at least listen to them... be humble and fierce. ARTPOP for me is a great record, I listen to it everyday and music wise it's really cool... I feel. But yeah, the lack of fantasy, accompanying it, Gaga's 100 percent commitment to it (instead of going to Galas and fashion shows... being depressed, being with Taylor and doing other stuff at the same time as "promoting" the album... during TF/TFM era EVERYTHING she ever did was related to the album... she worked really really really hard.) I feel all of this has kept ARTPOP from being what it should have been, pop amazingness, global domination, performances, ideas, interviews, fashion, trips, tour etc etc... Anyways, don't worry guys, its Gaga, she is amazing, she will get her **** together how she always has and do what she feels she needs to. Let's trust her. This!!!!!!!! You said it all sistaaaaa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 We don't have anything right now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I regret not being a fan then. It was literally the greatest experience in my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 From what he's saying, it's really interesting to see how much has changed (and stayed the same) throughout her still relatively young career. TF/M was indeed a perfect a storm in terms of organizing and execution, and even BTW was still pretty great (though I think there was definitely much less team involved, and more Gaga taking reigns- obviously, not everybody liked that). I think ARTPOP is the one that feels truly... different? Maybe it's a shift not just in concept, but also in organization and in execution. At first I thought it was because Gaga was in full control, but from recent events that obviously was not the case. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme 0 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I don't think we'll get over how legendary TFM era was. I mean c'mon thats when we were born, that's when "LITTLE MONSTERS" were born, and that's when "MOTHER MONSTER" was born. It'll forever be with us will keep slaying us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKorix 156 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I miss the team and the performances, they were all iconic back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masaki 71 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Honestly all I want is Dada back. That's all. :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brdn08 12 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Matt is amazing. His flair for the visual is undoubted. To be honest Gaga's a genius musically, Matthew was able to give that music a match in visuals. It's not a coincidence that when Matt started going deeper into urban music suddenly so did show studio. Nick Knight now is Kanye's go to photographer mainly. Matt has art directed some stunning videos for Kanye, Kid Cudi, Jay Z, Asap Rocky and more. Dads has an even better collective now than back then. (Look up Virgil Abloh) I do wish he was still working with Gaga because I felt like his abilities freed up Gaga to focus more on the music. I think I'm a bigger fan of Matthew than Gaga now he's just done so much and worked with so many amazing people the last couple of years. The stuff he's done and getting ready to do with Rihanna, Been Trill, Jay Z, of course Kanye, Miley Cyrus, Big Sean, Virgil Abloh, his collabs with Ruth Hogban and Nick Knight, of course Nicola last year, Stussy, and much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terencer 0 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I remember these days. It's Gaga in her prime being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthakati 0 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 OK, this is my view on the topic: During TF/TFM era Gaga was hungry for success, she was starving. You can hear it in interviews, she talks about hard work, and passion and doing it for the art, and how much she suffered, and how much she still has to give... She had a fire. She worked hard, was smart, met the right people, had the right outlook, references, inspiration, ideas, friends... Her people/record label/managers saw this. They supported her by giving her the best people to be around her. They gave her their all. Because she was selling so well and doing so good (both her own merit and a good team). It all worked fine. Until, the people around her felt that Gaga was taking all the credit, (you know how she likes to let the public know how involved she is... which I don't doubt I just feel it makes her team feel bad). Come BTW, TEOG... these people (LAGibson...etc...) start telling her what she should and shouldn't do, how and when and why... not because they were egotistical but because it was their job. Gaga, feeling on top of the world right off the success of Bad Romance etc... decided not to listen to them anymore (and I guess she was right, you should not be a slave to what people tell you to do aka Britney Spears...) and things started derailing since then... The same happened with Troy... he was just doing his job, he probably wanted Gaga to sell herself out to this supermarket, world promotion tour, interviews, events, sponsorships etc... to promote ARTPOP, just like he has done before, but Gaga felt she didn't need these kind of tactics anymore of course she is THE Lady Gaga... Plus now she has Taylor, which grounds her down... she has money, fame, fashion, beauty, famous friends designers, video directors, artists... what is keeping her going... well... I feel that not much is! Especially after being operated on and suffering with that and with addiction and trying to cope with fame... In a way its really good she has Taylor, he is keeping her sane, human... which she is, she is just that: Human. I am in no way dissing Gaga or saying bad things, I just feel she needs to find that fire again, find the humility in herself to let other people have input on her work, not let them take over, but at least listen to them... be humble and fierce. ARTPOP for me is a great record, I listen to it everyday and music wise it's really cool... I feel. But yeah, the lack of fantasy, accompanying it, Gaga's 100 percent commitment to it (instead of going to Galas and fashion shows... being depressed, being with Taylor and doing other stuff at the same time as "promoting" the album... during TF/TFM era EVERYTHING she ever did was related to the album... she worked really really really hard.) I feel all of this has kept ARTPOP from being what it should have been, pop amazingness, global domination, performances, ideas, interviews, fashion, trips, tour etc etc... Anyways, don't worry guys, its Gaga, she is amazing, she will get her **** together how she always has and do what she feels she needs to. Let's trust her. my thoughts exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh190 0 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 i'm listening to TF dada Whatever, i love hits from TF more than TFM :v haha lol Anw, idk what ya guys talking about, now i'm waiting for ARTPOP dada :-h Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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