tokyodisko 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Yeah, someone should have told Madonna that when she was making something as iconic as the s-x book, which at that time was pretty shocking(probably more than this Gaga performance would have been), if only someone(maybe her label) had filtered her too That's a totally different medium, not a widely watched TV awards show. A book is something someone willing will open up because they're interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash 11 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 That's a totally different medium, not a widely watched TV awards show. A book is something someone willing will open up because they're interested. Then haven't other highly s-xual VMAs performance being "filtered" too? I don't really get what's so awful about this than some other performances. Or is there "social commentary" that can be attached to twerking, but not "blood"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivingtonrebels 245 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Was this 100% definitively MTV? Is there suspicion that Troy advised against this and that is what caused the fall out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Then haven't other highly s-xual VMAs performance being "filtered" too? I don't really get what's so awful about this than some other performances. Or is there "social commentary" that can be attached to twerking, but not "blood"? They both could be, obviously. But most people are more comfortable with twerking than blood- hell, it is mtv and they are known for s-x. People are not taking into account that MTV had a time frame and budget which could have easily had something to do with this performance being scrapped. And to those saying that maybe the torture could be skipped, but keeping the rest, perhaps that was an option, but Gaga changed her mind, because she wanted the full act, not a pulled back version. That's the same thing as filtering her vision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Monster 38 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I mean it does seem a little too shocking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash 11 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 They both could be, obviously. But most people are more comfortable with twerking than blood- hell, it is mtv and they are known for s-x. People are not taking into account that MTV had a time frame and budget which could have easily had something to do with this performance being scrapped. And to those saying that maybe the torture could be skipped, but keeping the rest, perhaps that was an option, but Gaga changed her mind, because she wanted the full act, not a pulled back version. That's the same thing as filtering her vision. People say torture like it was a scene out of Saw, hardly. It probably had just a little more blood than her much lauded 2009 performance and I honestly don't think it would have been something that'd have sent kids running under their beds(not like anyone below 12 or 13 should be watching the VMAs anyways, and they've probably seen much worse). I can agree with the bolded part being the reason, but I find it hard to believe it was "filtered" for content reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc1993 1 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Sucks for Gags, but hey it's one awards show. Her tours are what her 100% fully realized performances are for. I really don't see why this is such a big thing. Yeah, someone should have told Madonna that when she was making something as iconic as the s-x book, which at that time was pretty shocking(probably more than this Gaga performance would have been), if only someone(maybe her label) had filtered her too What even is this post? The circumstances by which Madonna was "allowed" to do the Sex book and Gaga wasn't "allowed" to do her original VMA performance are completely different. Trust a Little Monster to take a situation where Gaga is wronged and make it in some way a negative post about Madonna Wow, we're really moving ahead here guys #MuchProgression Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 People say torture like it was a scene out of Saw, hardly. It probably had just a little more blood than her much lauded 2009 performance and I honestly don't think it would have been something that'd have sent kids running under their beds(not like anyone below 12 or 13 should be watching the VMAs anyways, and they've probably seen much worse). I can agree with the bolded part being the reason, but I find it hard to believe it was "filtered" for content reasons. I looked at the artist's work and it was really a bit gruesome for MTV. I think it was the content and budget personally. I doubt they would have canned this for Miley. They might have been worried about spending so much on Gaga's performance since she was still recovering and the public wasn't really into Applause yet. That'd be a big risk of money on their part. If an artist does well, MTV makes money, and their money was on Miley, which at the time was probably the best choice in terms of the GP. I think a cute/fun performance of Applause was exactly what it needed to ease the GP back into Gaga's imagery and sound. While the other performance could have been cool, I think that it would not have been received well by most people. It sounds more like a tour performance imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowman 7,788 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 And to think I could have physically witnessed Gaga's greatest performance yet :emo: i literally thought this, jjang :'( Check out my new single 'Loon' - https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash 11 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Sucks for Gags, but hey it's one awards show. Her tours are what her 100% fully realized performances are for. I really don't see why this is such a big thing. What even is this post? The circumstances by which Madonna was "allowed" to do the Sex book and Gaga wasn't "allowed" to do her original VMA performance are completely different. Trust a Little Monster to take a situation where Gaga is wronged and make it in some way a negative post about Madonna Wow, we're really moving ahead here guys #MuchProgression It wasn't a negative post about Madonna? And it wasn't supposed to be in the context of "whaaa, Madonna could, but Gaga can't" Not sure why you're looking for shade in everything. I was just comparing one controversial situation with another "potentially" controversial situation. Trust some Madonna fan to find shade in the most irrelevant of things. So yeah #MuchProgression right back at you. Also #readingcomprehensionandnotjumpingthegunhelps Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrangea 5,073 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Gaga needs to re do this performance as a side project in a video i swear, I can see why she has so much hatred for the music industry when it's so obviously rigged to certain performers. i bet she feels trapped sometimes poor woman. Say goodnight, angel eyes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hausofchrist 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Has gags responded to the tweets about this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuelx 1,288 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Omg that journal Gaga posted awhile back it all makes sense now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retep 0 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I fail to understand why Miley's performance would have prevented Gaga preforming this one?? Am I missing something? :( Fill me in!! It kinda makes sense for them to promote Miley more. A. She had a mini-doc on MTV prior to her album, if she was the centerpiece of the VMA's it would've helped those numbers. B. She now is doing an unplugged performance for the channel, again it's even more ratings for MTV due to a want for viewership. Every show she's billed on now is trying to up the last, the EMA's and (billboard?) awards always said 'wait until you see what she does next'. That being said, this sounded amazing. Granted I see the issue with Athey, but they definitely could have nixed that or tamed it slightly at least. As has been stated before, this makes me wonder about what else has been denied for Gaga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky 39 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If I We're Gaga, I Would Have Refused To Perform As Go Not Sacrifice My Artistic Integrity.... :Classy: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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