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are these suppose to be the other pop b---hes? lol. 

i think nicki is the 3rd to the right. 

 

She's more like the one in the middle. Puffed up.

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She's more like the one in the middle. Puffed up.

i think thats the one i meant lol

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Miel

Well, then.

 

Anything happen?

ARTPOP is coming. Get into your hiding places, hurry. The slayage is comin

 

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**** what's this guy's livejournal?

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Born This Way Foundation: On 6/3, @BarackObama spoke about why #MentalHealthMatters. Here's what @momgerm & @CalEndow CEO Dr Ross have to say! http://huff.to/17Uv3nr

 

 

 

this is the only thing gaga has tweeted/retweed. she did it on june 4th so what do you think? i think that means that she's going to give an announcement or something june 29th!!!! so excited look, 29-4= 25th. 25 + 3 (the three albums she has done so far) is 28TH!!! THAT'S HER BIRTH DATE!!!! SO that means that she's ready to be reborn on the 29th when the era begins!!!!!!!!!

 

 

so excited :party: :nooo:

 

I can't wait for #MOMMYMONSTER :party: 

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I don't think any of that music was from ARTPOP anyway  :shrug:

 

atleast, we can hear something new, not raping the play button of btw again and again

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Found this on twitter:

 

RUMOUR: Raven is new Lady Gaga's single. It is about bittersweet love. It's defined as the raveish techno EDM evolution of Monster. 

Are there further talks about this one? 

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Miel

Then we have a case of John Milton Paradise lost and there should be sympathy for Lucifer for fighting & rebelling against a tyrannical force, rather then scorn. But what if I was a dolphin.

-Chinny

 

I think I've found the true core of ARTPOP.

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Miel, if you campaign in the 2020 presidential primaries, I will vote for you.

 

--Government Hookuhhhh

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Miel

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Miel, if you campaign in the 2020 presidential primaries, I will vote for you.

 

--Government Hookuhhhh

 

I'm telling you, Chinny, everything is falling into place.

 

Born This Way was her act as Lucifer falling from the grace of God. Born This Way = Lucifer, the general US (or world?) public = God. It's her going against the grain of oppression (no matter how well-intended the initial oppression was). And while the oppression itself was a sort of all-encompassing protection, she as Born This Way as Lucifer bit the hand that fed, only because the spoon-feeding became all too much (also a commentary on media [ahem decay of celebrity and/or psyche]).

 

Of course it wasn't intended to be that way then, but she twisted it into her own sort of mythos in retrospect. If ARTPOP is about possibilities, or the Phoenix rising, then they both can be about the possibilities after falling from the grace of Puritanical totalitarianism. Or, in the Phoenix's case, the same as such, except in the POV of 'rising from it after being destroyed by it'. The death of the celebrity/decay of the blonde wasn't a core album theme, because it was a staged theme between albums, it was Gaga's fall of grace.

 

She's no angel of pop, or princess of pop. Ever wonder why she proclaimed herself as the devil of pop? Because she sees herself as a representation of a Milton-esque Lucifer figure. Not that she is the Lucifer figure, but, quoting the BTWB, "I am you". The disenfranchised are the fallen figures, the ones fallen from the grace of God. And while they are looked down upon from the light and beams of heaven, or are still facing the regime of it, they have the benefit of the doubt; they have the benefit of possibilities, of rising from their own ashes in a perpetual reincarnation.

 

Not in its initial intention, but in retrospect:

The Fame - originally conceived as creating 'inner sense of Fame', now a chapter in her new story as the gaining access and acceptance into Heaven

The Fame Monster - originally conceived as an introspection of the effects of Fame and of self+other-created fears, now a chapter in her story new as the fear and doubting of Heaven

Born This Way - originally conceived as introspection (or relation) of self-discovery, rebirth, and worth, also subtly as a revolution-esque anthemic album, now a chapter in her new story as the rebellion and revolution against the regime of Heaven (as Lucifer, a figure stigmatized as evil but, in Milton's view, more of a fallen figure... SEE THE SIMILARITIES?)

ARTPOP - the new story, both a retelling of previous stories, and a continuation of said retelling

 

Key terms: "the devil of pop"

"anything from Judas I s2g"

"the betrayal theme from BTWB (between Bad Romance and Judas)"

"Phoenix rising theme"

"MTN video theme of retelling past events in a more artistic manner (going by the general theory that final video = clue to next era"

 

importantthis is all a pseudo-joke that started with a pseudo-joke discussion with Chinnicide about how Milton's Paradise Lost is a possible influence on ARTPOP. Yes, all of the above is incredibly reaching because it was, initially, a joke. HOWEVER, I'm starting to take myself seriously. I delusionally think I may be on to something.

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Miel

Omg miel

 

PLEASE CRITIQUE I'M FEELING INSECURE ABOUT MY IDEAS

ELABORATE

PLS

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PLEASE CRITIQUE I'M FEELING INSECURE ABOUT MY IDEAS

ELABORATE

PLS

Your a--logies are really interesting. The way you explained each album was perfect. This is kind of scaring me because it actually does make sense :flop: I always thought the manifesto in the BTW video was reminiscent of the heaven/hell story too.

It kind of goes with what she said about the BTWB being "episode one" and that everything she's done was just the beginning. Now ARTPOP is the true beginning.

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Your a--logies are really interesting. The way you explained each album was perfect. This is kind of scaring me because it actually does make sense :flop: I always thought the manifesto in the BTW video was reminiscent of the heaven/hell story too.

It kind of goes with what she said about the BTWB being "episode one" and that everything she's done was just the beginning. Now ARTPOP is the true beginning.

 

TF/M and BTW = Old Testament

 

ARTPOP and beyond = New Testament

 

I'm GOING CRAZY.

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