Michelle 2,056 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'm glad I missed all this drama, I'm not even going to read this thread after just the few replies I See which aren't shocking...YOU people are so ****ing DRAMATIC. Lets go take a howl at that moonš -Crowley Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorescheisse 0 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 DUDES she just wanted to emphasize her impact on pop culture. I mean come on, Gaga is the last person to hate on people who are inspired by her... she bases most of her looks on other inspirations, she's hardly original herself.BTW I don't think that's a bad thing, she puts her own Gaga twist on things and honors pop culture. She's happy, not mad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LavenderLamborghin 363 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 What if she's hinting that she's working on a music video for Dope or something, but things were misunderstood and are now just blowing up and going the wrong wayĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladey Gagz 2,512 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 What if she's hinting that she's working on a music video for Dope or something, but things were misunderstood and are now just blowing up and going the wrong wayĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Witch 1,159 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 u can't take humour huh? Both (Gaga and Bieber) will be around for some time :p I'm joking! Bieber not so tbh, especially what's he's doing to himself, if he wants to be the next Vanilla Ice. Gaga is already a ***flawless legend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegahedron 165 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's obvious that she was referencing the Miley Unplugged poster. No reason for her to tweet the Dope cover unless she was. It would have been completely random. Remember when she shaded Nicki at the VMA awards with this? Then she deleted it and said she was sorry and only trying to make a joke with her fans not seriously attack Nicki. I feel like this is another one of those instances. Mmmhmmm. Like the "Excuse me no" incident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Not sure if shade or reaching tbqh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britneylopez99 0 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 i liked this tweet :') Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyandgreen 0 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) The funny part is that she's right. That tweet itself just influenced pop culture (for example, this thread about it and the reactionary tweets trending worldwide) Edited January 22, 2014 by fuzzyandgreen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 16,989 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 disagree with you here. why should you be accountable for how others react to it if they are reacting to it in the wrong way that was not your intention. Despite you saying the tweet had "shade," it is not clear and just based on our speculations. Why should Gaga be accountable for our speculations?Ā Because Gaga is a grown women... If I say something or do something that ends up causing offence or if I say or do something that ends up having unforeseen consequences then I man up and apologise, regardless of what my intention was. The tweet quite clearly referenced Miley. Do you think it is a coincidence that she posted the MTV poster that people were comparing to the Dope cover and then less than an hour later Gaga posts the Dope cover with the words "Pop Culture is my b---h"? If it wasn't referencing Miley then that is a massive coincidence. I would be curious to see how you would interpret that tweet because it seems pretty obvious to most people. Best case scenario (which I actually believe to be what happened), Gaga made a joke and didn't mean to offend anybody. Ā Despite her intentions, the tweet still comes of as shady and it still comes across as hypocritical from an artist constantly promoting her brand of #OnlineKindness.Ā Do you see what that tweet implies? It implies competition and it encourages comparisons between different artists which is something that Gaga has been so against.Ā I don't even see how you could argue against that, the fact that she referenced Miley and put the tagline "Pop Culture is my b---h" is immensely hypocritical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Because Gaga is a grown women... If I say something or do something that ends up causing offence or if I say or do something that ends up having unforeseen consequences then I man up and apologise, regardless of what my intention was. The tweet quite clearly referenced Miley. Do you think it is a coincidence that she posted the MTV poster that people were comparing to the Dope cover and then less than an hour later Gaga posts the Dope cover with the words "Pop Culture is my b---h"? If it wasn't referencing Miley then that is a massive coincidence. I would be curious to see how you would interpret that tweet because it seems pretty obvious to most people. Best case scenario (which I actually believe to be what happened), Gaga made a joke and didn't mean to offend anybody. Ā Despite her intentions, the tweet still comes of as shady and it still comes across as hypocritical from an artist constantly promoting her brand of #OnlineKindness.Ā Do you see what that tweet implies? It implies competition and it encourages comparisons between different artists which is something that Gaga has been so against.Ā I don't even see how you could argue against that, the fact that she referenced Miley and put the tagline "Pop Culture is my b---h" is immensely hypocritical. But she didn't reference her directly. Still no concrete evidence that it shades Miley. And it's not like Miley is offened by it. It's still based on your speculation, which at the end of the day is still a speculation no matter how obvious you may claim it is. Ā And I think I disagree with your ideology when it comes to intention. You should not be required nor should it be deemed better to fess up to something you yourself didn't mal-intentionally/directly cause. Other people's reactions are not your problem but theirs.Ā Ā And like I stated earlier, Gaga is changing her idealistic, wacky stance on this issue. It's not hypocritical unless she starts banning people for names like Katyslaysurfaves, etc. again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 There won't be third single. Mark my words. And I don't care what's the cause of all of this. Ā Also thank you for reminding me that my opinions are... just my opinions :) Gypsy is third single so...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 16,989 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) But she didn't reference her directly. Still no concrete evidence that it shades Miley. And it's not like Miley is offened by it. It's still based on your speculation, which at the end of the day is still a speculation no matter how obvious you may claim it is. Ā And I think I disagree with your ideology when it comes to intention. You should not be required nor should it be deemed better to fess up to something you yourself didn't mal-intentionally/directly cause. Other people's reactions are not your problem but theirs.Ā Ā And like I stated earlier, Gaga is changing her idealistic, wacky stance on this issue. It's not hypocritical unless she starts banning people for names like Katyslaysurfaves, etc. again. Ā There is no point in conversing with you if you are not willing to accept that Gaga's tweet was in reference to Miley. The only way she could have made it more clear is if she actually wrote @MileyCyrus. I think it is extremely immature to ignore the consequences of your actions. When your unthought out words and actions have negativeĀ unforeseen consequences then you should address the consequences. You are responsible for what you say and what you do. "Gaga is changing her idealistic, wacky stance on this issue. It's not hypocritical unless she starts banning people for names like Katyslaysurfaves, etc. again." Really? When did she say this? 6 days ago she was on Little Monsters.com criticising people who use the word 'flop'. 10 days ago she was saying that if your criticise others in any way, you are only criticising yourself. The only reason you are saying she has changed her idealistic stance is because her tweet is so clearly contrary to the unrealistic standards she has set for her brand of #OnlineKindness. It is hypocritical. Ā Edited January 22, 2014 by Bebe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) There is no point in conversing with you if you are not willing to accept that Gaga's tweet was in reference to Miley. The only way she could have made it more clear is if she actually wrote @MileyCyrus. I think it is extremely immature to ignore the consequences of your actions. When your unthought out words and actions have negativeĀ unforeseen consequences then you should address the consequences. You are responsible for what you say and what you do. "Gaga is changing her idealistic, wacky stance on this issue. It's not hypocritical unless she starts banning people for names like Katyslaysurfaves, etc. again." Really? When did she say this? 6 days ago she was on Little Monsters.com criticising people who use the word 'flop'. 10 days ago she was saying that if your criticise others in any way, you are only criticising yourself. The only reason you are saying she has changed her idealistic stance is because her tweet is so clearly contrary to the unrealistic standards she has set for her brand of #OnlineKindness. It is hypocritical. Ā She doesn't have to say it outright. It's quite clear that Gaga has just experienced a MASSIVE pick me up. Look at what she's done, where she's gone the past couple of days. She's in a better place and not in a crying depressive state complaining about criticism. Therefore she has most likely changed her stance. Again how many times are you going to say that your speculations that the tweet shades Miley are the truth without concrete evidence.Ā :roll: You and I have different personalities my friend. You seem to be someone who worries too much about how others will react to what you say, etc. I don't think you should have to walk on glass like this if you yourself don't have bad intentions-that's just my personality and ideology. If I am not intending something bad with what I say, then I'll go the hell and say it. How other people react ain't my problem if I didn't mean it in a harmful way.Ā But nice having a discussion with you.Ā Edited January 22, 2014 by Gov Hooka Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 16,989 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 She doesn't have to say it outright. It's quite clear that Gaga has just experienced a MASSIVE pick me up. Look at what she's done, where she's gone the past couple of days. She's in a better place and not in a crying depressive state complaining about criticism. Therefore she has most likely changed her stance. Again how many times are you going to say that your speculations that the tweet shades Miley are the truth without concrete evidence.Ā :roll: You and I have different personalities my friend. You seem to be someone who worries too much about how others will react to what you say, etc. I don't think you should have to walk on glass like this if you yourself don't have bad intentions-that's just my personality and ideology. If I am not intending something bad with what I say, then I'll go the hell and say it. How other people react ain't my problem if I didn't mean it in a harmful way.Ā But nice having a discussion with you.Ā Ā "She doesn't have to say it outright. It's quite clear that Gaga has just experienced a MASSIVE pick me up. Look at what she's done, where she's gone the past couple of days. She's in a better place and not in a crying depressive state complaining about criticism. Therefore she has most likely changed her stance." Ā :lmao: Ā Riiiiight it isn't obvious that Gaga's tweet was referencing Miley even though everyone was discussing the similarities just before she tweeted but it is clear that Gaga's entire ideological outlook on OnlineKindness has changed within the past 3 days. I don't think I have to walk on glass, I am a person with a rather strong conviction who isn't frightened to express my opinion. I'm not even worried if people are offended by my opinion. However, when I make a foolish statement that comes across as hypocritical and when my words and actions have unforeseen consequences which I did not intend then I take full responsibility for the words I speak and the actions I take. I think it shows a lack of maturity when someone does not take accountability for the words they have said and the actions they have taken. Gaga might not have intended to be shady, but the fact is her tweet does come across as shady and encourages the sort of competition and comparison that she has so strongly objected too.Ā Ā Great talking to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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