General Charts Discussion - Taylor's 1989 is swiftly coming for 5M+

[popper 3]

Tragic.

[Cupid 760]

It's not about the money money money. We dont need no money money money :witchney:

[Supersonic 49,376]

Wow, I had no idea it was that bad. I thought Beyonce had definitely sold a million by this point, but guess not. This is why I don't understand why people are calling this era her peak and the biggest she's ever been.

 

She sold 1.3 million in the last 3 weeks of 2013 tho and is at 2 million right now

[LaLuna 12,732]

She was never that big to begin with so to me those numbers aren't shocking at all. 

[Memo 176]

I love her but she lost herself since Alive. Who You Are is a great album and sounded very cool and unique. Now she's just selling out to have success. I really like Sweet Talker tho, and she's talent and a great person. But she needs to found herself again and make music that she really loves. Poor Jessie tho :(

This so much :madge:

[NewYorkCity 10,517]

Feeling sad for her... but she hasn't really brought anything new or different...

[chris777 112]

How is Sam so high on sales this week? Has he been selling so well the whole time?

 

He performed twice this week, on Fallon and The Today Show.

Capitol's promo>>>>>

[chris777 112]

9. Sam Smith - I'm Not the Only One 

 

I love this song and the video slays too. I hope it keeps doing well in the US.

[Jase 13,083]

iTunes Update

 

 

01. Out of the Woods - Taylor Swift

02. Shake It Off - Taylor Swift

03. Killpop - Slipknot

04. All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor

05. Something From Nothing - Foo Fighters

06. Animals - Maroon 5

07. Bang Bang - Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj

08. Habits (Stay High) - Tove Lo

09. Trumpets - Jason Derulo

10. I'm Not the Only One - Sam Smith

 

11. Cool Kids - Echosmith

12. Steal My Girl - One Direction

13. Centuries - Fall Out Boy

14. Stay With Me - Sam Smith

15. Don't - Ed Sheeran

16. Burnin' It Down - Jason Aldean

17. AOV - Slipknot

18. Waves (Robin Schulz Radio Edit) - Mr. Probz

19. Don't Tell 'Em (feat. YG) - Jeremih

20. Take Me to Church - Hozier

 

21. Jealous - Nick Jonas

22. Fireball (feat. John Ryan) - Pitbull

23. Dirt - Florida Georgia Line

24. Hot N*gga - Bobby Shmurda

25. Rather Be (feat. Jess Glynne) - Clean Bandit

26. Black Widow (feat. Rita Ora) - Iggy Azalea

27. Blame (feat. John Newman) - Calvin Harris

28. Tuesday (feat. Drake) - I LOVE MAKONNEN

29. Chandelier - Sia

30. Stolen Dance - Milky Chance

 

31. I Don't F**k With You (feat. E-40) - Big Sean

32. Something in the Water - Carrie Underwood

33. Leave the Night On - Sam Hunt

34. Anaconda - Nicki Minaj

35. Lifestyle (feat. Young Thug & Rich Homie Quan) - Rich Gang

36. Riptide - Vance Joy

37. Break Free (feat. Zedd) - Ariana Grande

38. Neon Light - Blake Shelton

39. Amnesia - 5 Seconds of Summer

40. Maps - Maroon 5

 

Bubbling Under

 

42. Burnin' Up (feat. 2 Chainz) - Jessie J

53. Heroes (we could be) [feat. Tove Lo] - Alesso

55. Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande & The Weeknd

59. Secrets - Mary Lambert

63. i - Kendrick Lamar

79. L.A.LOVE (la la) - Fergie

81. Dangerous (feat. Sam Martin) - David Guetta

85. Thinking Out Loud - Ed Sheeran

[Yves 1,891]

Bang Bang out of the chart

In three weeks :rip:

[FrozenKookie 2,638]

Because almost of the mainstream songs out there have been trash. Why bother asking

1. Music was mostly basic lets be real

2. Torrents

3. Ppl shifting to other genres

Couldn't agree more :madge:

[Klou 2,414]

All the people here trying to say it's because of bad music

It's because of the rise of streaming.

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

Wow, I had no idea it was that bad. I thought Beyonce had definitely sold a million by this point, but guess not. This is why I don't understand why people are calling this era her peak and the biggest she's ever been. The US's biggest numbers this year is pretty much in line with the UK's biggest numbers, which is not a good thing as America has always had marginally bigger sales than the UK. Going platinum in America has always been easy and you don't even have to have a #1 single to do it, which is very different to other countries. But the major turnaround this year suggests there needs to be some sort of intervention. Taylor and 1D are still to release their albums and they're guaranteed to open huge, but it won't be like it was in previous years. 1D won't hit 1 million with just a month's worth left of sales before 2015. I was sure that Taylor wouldn't debut with 1 million this time, but after hearing this piece of information and taking into account that so many albums opened below expectations this year (sometimes by 100k or more), I'm wondering if she'll even get in the 880-900k range. Maybe those predicting 500-600k aren't far off the mark. If so, she might manage just under 1 million by the end of the year, but it'll be so close. In the face of all this, the fact that C2C debuted about industry predictions and is still in the top ten after 3 weeks is nothing short of amazing.

 

 

THIS. I hate when these articles are nearly always followed by a bunch of money-hungry industry types saying piracy is the one and only reason why music is selling less and there needs to be stricter laws and harsher punishments for piracy. Plenty of albums have sold in the digital age. In fact, most albums are selling better than they were before illegal downloading. People always say how albums sold millions before illegal downloading, but if you actually look back in history at the sales, they are shockingly low, even for the biggest acts of the time. The 50's, 60's and 70's really struggled with sales, partly because music (big vinyl LPs) were so expensive and people didn't have the disposible income they do now. You also needed a turntable and lots of space to hold these massive unweildy records. It wasn't until the 80's that music really started selling in huge amounts, when people's fortunes really began to change. After the recessions, which are still ongoing, the public have had to penny pinch wherever they can and music is seen as a big luxury, reserved for Christmas buys for other people, not for yourself. So many people don't buy any music because they don't have the time to pay attention to it what with the high demands from employment nowadays and they certainly don't have the money to buy every good album they hear. Most people I know rarely, if ever, buy music. They don't pirate it, they just don't buy it. Thanks to sites like YouTube, Vevo and streaming services, we can listen to music for free, so plenty of us are just choosing to do that now. It explains why YouTube/Vevo viewership increases every year and videos get to 100 million+ views in no time at all. I think this is to blame more than piracy for decreased sales.

 

And you make a good point about promotion too. There was a distinct lack of any sort of promotion from some of the biggest artists this year. Bar one awards show appearance, most of them (or should I say, their labels) have been sitting back and just expecting their album to sell. Promotion sells albums more than anything else, so I don't know why it hasn't been valued this year. Iggy Azalea has been a huge figure in the US this year, but despite a #3 single with Black Widow, a massive #1 single with Fancy (which was #1 for 7 weeks - the second longest #1 of the year) and high profile features with Ariana Grande, T.I. and J-Lo, her album only peaked at #3 and and sold just under 400k to date. There's something up with that. She's had 3 top 10's and 2 top 20's in the UK, yet her album only went to #5 and has barely sold 100k to date. So, I think promotion does play a huge part, as she's been missing that factor. And yes, I think quality plays a huge role too. Everyone's been going on about how bad music is right now. As we've seen with big sellers like Adele's 21, if people think music is good, they are more than happy to pay for it. The industry just doesn't want to admit that quality sells. They just toss out any old rubbish and expect us to buy it. The public has taken a long overdue stand against this practice. And it's the only way music is going to get better.

 

Someone gets it....hopefully Gaga's next album is not only great music, but also gets ( like she promised) the C2C treatment with promo EVERYWHERE!

[Redstreak 6,653]

Will the Lord be the only artist to get a platinum album this year?

[Pop 4,541]

The streaming services are replacing music sales.

 

Stans will have to find new ways to fight their wars, such as Spotify streams, YouTube views and concert tickets sold.