Stefani 25 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Could you not call it that? I mean, it's causing more meltdowns and more stress in here... calm yo tits, its a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Music video gets played on TV Not in America. Monster went #1 without a video here. So did Roar. The video did nothing for Uncle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
itaita 0 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 My other observation is: LG has strayed from her 'iconic' vocals and vocal delivery. She developed a signature style with her earlier hits: a bit monotonous, but it stood out and really worked with her lower register. Since then she has branched out, which is understandable when you're a vocalist, and she has wanted to show the world that she has the pipes. All well and good, but to me, when she sings higher, she sounds like a music theater vocalist. Not a bad thing, but it takes me out of the 'pop space' she creates. The role of the producer, IMO only, would be to bring her back to basic songwriting. I mean basic in a good way - and also bring her back vocally, at least for a couple of songs, where the general audience will recognize her voice/delivery. When PF came out, her voice and delivery were unmistakable and unique. Clear, lower tones, a bit spoken, with a very interesting inflection. She then mostly abandoned it and it's certainly not as present on this record at all. I am not saying an artist should be stuck in a mode for ages, but that is another one of her issues. Once you find a good thing, you polish it and stick to it for a while. The problem for artists who hit it big is that they become impatient and want to show the world 'look, ma! no hands! I can do this too!' that they're no one trick pony. Part of that impatience is that THEY have been doing it for years so they're kind of over it. But it's not the same for the wider audience. I think her signature looks/vocals could have lasted longer and taken over the world in a much more lasting fashion. I think BTW was too soon in its themes, personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I am not sure what you mean. This was my response to another poster who specifically spoke of the US, I believe. I had already written my opinion of the song. I think the pre-chorus is the best part, while the chorus is a bit messed up in terms of mixing/production and her vocals aren't as clear as they could be. The first time I heard it I couldn't even figure out what she was saying in it, it was very muddy. The rest of the world cares more about melodies than the US, and the vocals. If you have a killer melody you can have pretty subpar lyrics and get away with it in the rest of the world. The Applause melodic part is not strong in the verse and, like I said, the chorus doesn't give you the release the pre-chorus sets it up for. Of course it's all relative. My hunch is that singing about/asking for applause is not the same as asking for love - and it doesn't turn on the same emotional connections whatsoever, so at that point the song is basically just riding on its good points as a song only, not an emotional construct - hence limited success. I did say it was a good pop song. Jimmy picked it for a reason. That said, when it came out, I was concerned because to me, if this was the strongest lead single.... it was not a good sign. I was talking about how Applause performed quite well in the US while it drastically underperformed WW for a Gaga single. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 You know why Flop all u want isnt doing well, its because the Americans have been asleep for 4 days straight can u stop?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani 25 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 can u stop?. dont tell me to stop, its a joke that we used to say for applause. I guess some people cannot detect sarcasm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
itaita 0 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 something with Rick Rubin's production?? she said it herself that they are in conversations. Rick is awesome. That said - please don't kill me - her vocals on Dope are a little over the top for me. Live it works, but recorded... I feel like she could have held back a little bit and it would have been more effective. Which brings me to think that she drove the bus, not Rick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 My other observation is: LG has strayed from her 'iconic' vocals and vocal delivery. She developed a signature style with her earlier hits: a bit monotonous, but it stood out and really worked with her lower register. Since then she has branched out, which is understandable when you're a vocalist, and she has wanted to show the world that she has the pipes. All well and good, but to me, when she sings higher, she sounds like a music theater vocalist. Not a bad thing, but it takes me out of the 'pop space' she creates. The role of the producer, IMO only, would be to bring her back to basic songwriting. I mean basic in a good way - and also bring her back vocally, at least for a couple of songs, where the general audience will recognize her voice/delivery. When PF came out, her voice and delivery were unmistakable and unique. Clear, lower tones, a bit spoken, with a very interesting inflection. She then mostly abandoned it and it's certainly not as present on this record at all. I am not saying an artist should be stuck in a mode for ages, but that is another one of her issues. Once you find a good thing, you polish it and stick to it for a while. The problem for artists who hit it big is that they become impatient and want to show the world 'look, ma! no hands! I can do this too!' that they're no one trick pony. Part of that impatience is that THEY have been doing it for years so they're kind of over it. But it's not the same for the wider audience. I think her signature looks/vocals could have lasted longer and taken over the world in a much more lasting fashion. I think BTW was too soon in its themes, personally. the only song to me that has that "vocals" is G.U.Y even tho the chorus is boring af. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani 25 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 My other observation is: LG has strayed from her 'iconic' vocals and vocal delivery. She developed a signature style with her earlier hits: a bit monotonous, but it stood out and really worked with her lower register. Since then she has branched out, which is understandable when you're a vocalist, and she has wanted to show the world that she has the pipes. All well and good, but to me, when she sings higher, she sounds like a music theater vocalist. Not a bad thing, but it takes me out of the 'pop space' she creates. The role of the producer, IMO only, would be to bring her back to basic songwriting. I mean basic in a good way - and also bring her back vocally, at least for a couple of songs, where the general audience will recognize her voice/delivery. When PF came out, her voice and delivery were unmistakable and unique. Clear, lower tones, a bit spoken, with a very interesting inflection. She then mostly abandoned it and it's certainly not as present on this record at all. I am not saying an artist should be stuck in a mode for ages, but that is another one of her issues. Once you find a good thing, you polish it and stick to it for a while. The problem for artists who hit it big is that they become impatient and want to show the world 'look, ma! no hands! I can do this too!' that they're no one trick pony. Part of that impatience is that THEY have been doing it for years so they're kind of over it. But it's not the same for the wider audience. I think her signature looks/vocals could have lasted longer and taken over the world in a much more lasting fashion. I think BTW was too soon in its themes, personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whis 2,920 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InYvRyX2Fu4&feature=youtu.be 0:54 :wub: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Not in America. Monster went #1 without a video here. So did Roar. The video did nothing for Uncle. stop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 dont tell me to stop, its a joke that we used to say for applause. I guess some people cannot detect sarcasm yeah but it not funny and is not helping the mood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 maan stop hoping that the whole 2015 will be for ACT 1 DWUW is already dying even If It repeaks with the video I am giving it life until January .. In February they will have to release the 3rd single .. If It's a huge hit I am giving it 2-3 months at most .. then by the time 4th single is released Album sales will be dying and they will release ACT 2.. Lead single End of Summer and the album October ... Why would the album sales become lower by next year? Hon, I don't know if you know, but in 2012 BTW was still selling over 40k a week on average in the first quarter while the last hit was in June 2011. Sales don't just simply stop at some point it doesn't matter if an album has already been bought by many, it will just be bought by more people. As long as ARTPOP is selling 50k a week I don't see a reason to release Part II, and if the fourth single becomes a hit, 70k/week is very easy. Then she has a fifth single, and if that becomes a hit too she can keep selling 60k/week. Then the holidays season comes and she can just keep selling 50k/week without a big hit. In the end, if she sold 90k/week on average for a whole year, she already has 4,5M sales. And why is everybody so confident in Part II, she actually needs a smash hit for it to do well. Look what happened with Justin Timberlake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishmonster 11,002 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Where is the video of the voice perfomance with 4 M??? buy stupid love on itunes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Hahaha, darling, I certainly can't tell anyone anything. Let's put this straight: I am one degree separated from the people who work on the project. Doesn't mean I have any influence, though I may be privy to some fresh rumors now and then:) My take (without any real info) is that they may go for Gypsy next and try to ride the wave of the 'new not overproduced' music that seems to be taking over. The music industry (majors), alas, know mostly one thing: identifying the CURRENT big thing and then going all out to replicate it. Unfortunately, most of the time the current big thing is already something that is on its way out or will be next year. They often move slow, too, in terms of releases and things, because it's a big machine, and by the time they get on the wagon, the next big thing is already here. My feeling is that Lorde's success, even if it's a fluke, is causing them to reconsider DJWS's involvement and there's some reshuffling going on as far as producers go. Perhaps there are some intentions to release the 2nd batch of songs with more stripped down production. I want them to release ARTPOP, it could honestly replicate the success of Royals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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