US Charts Discussion - 'ARTPOP' debuts at #1

[NewYorkCity 10,536]

As Americano is saying, the problem is not the music or her attitude. The promo is the problem here. She's not flopping as a star, she's flopping with sales, it is not the same. So please stop.

[Essence 235]

shes still at 160M AI on radio. believing shes irrelevant is literally insane. LOL

 

Obviously she has to do LOTS of damage control still though

she's not irrelevant. people care about her. just not that many people know the album actually is available haha.

[Americano 31,061]

What's shocking to me is HOW far off fans are when wondering WHY she's fallen so far..

 

I mean, was no one here in 2011? No one must have been, since if you were, you'd know EXACTLY at which points of that year where there was mass exodus from GGD and from her fans overall.

 

The people saying it's because of her interviews (that no one watches) or because of something as ridiculous as her talking about art have COMPLETELY missed the point lol.

 

But anyway, that's fixable with promo. Easily. People like catchy music, which ARTPOP has. She's not on TV at all. Which is not good.

[Slaylor Swift 0]

craig is a user on here???????? not you

wait.

[Bad 32]

Gaga needs Katy's team. They're flawless in marketing Katy. Everything is perfectly timed with them. If Gaga is only selling 40k less than Katy with this messy release, just think how well she could be selling if she had that kind of a team behind her. 

[MonsterOfSpain 8,318]

Don't blame Born This Way for this, it was still very successful, blame Interscope and Gaga for not promoting the **** out of this album. So ****ing tired of the Born This Way attacking. It was a better era than this one at least. 

 

 

ok, you don't need to scream... She was on tour and she finished with health problems. Yep, a new record during the tour would have been the best thing to do after BTW era when loads of people were so sick and tired of her  :roll:

 

She's a human being after all, if she needs a rest she was right getting it. ARTPOP underperformance doesn't have anyting to do with it IMO

 

This so much.

[craig 680]

Does the campaign for this album remind anyone else of the Fame perfume campaign? I mean both the products (ARTPOP and FAME perfume) were commercial products, not art in anyway but Gaga and her team make them out to be some artistic masterpeices, when in actual fact they are anything but, just designed to make money. I think this is what is turning people off, how Gaga has to make everything she does seem artistic and giving things deeper meaning when they are just commercial products.

Last era she was told she can be controversial, religious, or preachy.

No we insist she give up her interest in art.

What will be left but a boring generic product?

Artistic and commercial aren't mutually exclusuive.

[Marco 731]

Well we have some great promo coming up. SNL, Ellen, AMA's. Let's see how it will treat the album  

[asongforxx 0]

Imagine if ARTPOP was released instead of BTW. Same huge promotion, same huge lead single (imagine Applause doing like BTW), same buzz, but more commercial music, more singles option, more GP friendly image overall    

[PlasticHo 706]

she's not irrelevant. people care about her. just not that many people know the album actually is available haha.

I've been asking around a lot of people didn't know she had an album out. I know that seems insane for us, but that's what I'm getting from people.

[bumblebee 2,528]

Gaga needs Katy's team. They're flawless in marketing Katy. Everything is perfectly timed with them. If Gaga is only selling 40k less than Katy with this messy release, just think how well she could be selling if she had that kind of a team behind her. 

 

Gaga wouldn't stand that type of marketing because she wants to be remembered not for being successful, but for making artistic contribution to the pop music and pop culture. That's it. 

[MonsterOfSpain 8,318]

Gaga needs Katy's team. They're flawless in marketing Katy. Everything is perfectly timed with them. If Gaga is only selling 40k less than Katy with this messy release, just think how well she could be selling if she had that kind of a team behind her. 

 

Yes Gaga please move to Capitol.

[Bye 3,947]

Exactly as americano said. No one from the public knows about her artsy thoughts. It's the lack of promo. I mean her tweets today where about her dad's restaurant instead of ARTPOP :rip:

[Americano 31,061]

Plus, some of you are taking this way too far. HAVING KIDS BECAUSE OF A DISAPPOINTING DEBUT?

 

 

Come ON. She just needs to promote. The album is hardly dead. It'll have 3 top 10 hits in the next few weeks when DWUW is added. Gosh.

[Pure Adrenaline 1,518]

Does the campaign for this album remind anyone else of the Fame perfume campaign? I mean both the products (ARTPOP and FAME perfume) were commercial products, not art in anyway but Gaga and her team make them out to be some artistic masterpeices, when in actual fact they are anything but, just designed to make money. I think this is what is turning people off, how Gaga has to make everything she does seem artistic and giving things deeper meaning when they are just commercial products. 

yeah but FAME actually sold 6 million bottles in a week and ranked as the #2 highest selling fragrance where ARTPOP is struggling to beat a Disney star album