aaronyoji 2,054 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 In the US, the stress on the second syllable is a common and accepted pronunciation: /kÉ™(n)ˈnÉ‘t/, /kɪ(n)ˈnÉ‘t/. I'd guess that the stress on the first syllable is the older pronunciation (indeed, it's the only pronunciation in some dictionaries) but "canNOT" is perfectly acceptable. "CANnot" and "canNOT" can have different meanings, too, related to what specifically you're trying to emphasize. I totally get what you're saying about her voice, though. I think Boys, Boys, Boys is the best (or worst, depends on your view) example of her baby talk. "Glamophonic, electronic, d-d-disco, BEH-EE-BEE." It's hard to write, but she used a lower "e" sound on the diphthong in BAby as opposed to the more normal higher or central ones. She uses it a lot when she says "baby" on the Fame, but this song is the one that immediately came to mind. She does the same thing in Brown Eyes. "I knew that it was wrong, so baby, turn the record on." You can hear it to varying degrees throughout all of the songs. Eh Eh and I Like It Rough manage to sound pretty normal, though. I kinda like her baby talk. She never uses it again, so it makes the Fame feel really different stylistically. It works sometimes. If she did it on every album though The Fame has some incisive comments about Fame and love buried beneath seemingly shallow lyrics about the club, s-x, and champagne. I think that's part of its appeal; it serves us a party anthem and social commentary at the same time. Some other Gaga songs just try way too hard and end up losing the commercial appeal and the meaning at the same time (most of the song ARTPOP is gibberish or cringey to me, although there are some genius lines like "lovers' kites are flown on beaches for public sight" and "come to me with all your subtext and fantasy"). TF has a great balance. Even the "filler" track Money Honey is quite biting when you look at it (s-x/love as currency and the other idea of wealth being an expression of love, so currency as a form of love). It's easy to overlook because it's not obvious. The Fame is great, but it does do that faux-disco sound a bit too much for my taste (BDR, TF, Summerboy, Disco Heaven and Retro Dance Freak on the other editions) or that dated 80s synth-pop sound (ILIR, BBB). i actually dont at all mind the sub genres that the fame references, like bowie esque funk of the fame, but its the fact that its executed in such a constricted, contrived, amateurish way. its done in quiet foot steps if that makes sense and it carries through her vocal affectations on that album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbuHassan1992 766 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I don't think there are any fillers on it. Fillers are songs that artists put on the album just so that it's long enough to qualify as an album, but gaga wrote all the songs to go with the theme, and she wouldn't have put any songs on there just to make the track list long enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Its definitely not her worst, to me its born this way. Take me to church Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disregard 50 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 In the US, the stress on the second syllable is a common and accepted pronunciation: /kÉ™(n)ˈnÉ‘t/, /kɪ(n)ˈnÉ‘t/. I'd guess that the stress on the first syllable is the older pronunciation (indeed, it's the only pronunciation in some dictionaries) but "canNOT" is perfectly acceptable. "CANnot" and "canNOT" can have different meanings, too, related to what specifically you're trying to emphasize. I totally get what you're saying about her voice, though. I think Boys, Boys, Boys is the best (or worst, depends on your view) example of her baby talk. "Glamophonic, electronic, d-d-disco, BEH-EE-BEE." It's hard to write, but she used a lower "e" sound on the diphthong in BAby as opposed to the more normal higher or central ones. She uses it a lot when she says "baby" on the Fame, but this song is the one that immediately came to mind. She does the same thing in Brown Eyes. "I knew that it was wrong, so baby, turn the record on." You can hear it to varying degrees throughout all of the songs. Eh Eh and I Like It Rough manage to sound pretty normal, though. I kinda like her baby talk. She never uses it again, so it makes the Fame feel really different stylistically. It works sometimes. If she did it on every album though The Fame has some incisive comments about Fame and love buried beneath seemingly shallow lyrics about the club, s-x, and champagne. I think that's part of its appeal; it serves us a party anthem and social commentary at the same time. Some other Gaga songs just try way too hard and end up losing the commercial appeal and the meaning at the same time (most of the song ARTPOP is gibberish or cringey to me, although there are some genius lines like "lovers' kites are flown on beaches for public sight" and "come to me with all your subtext and fantasy"). TF has a great balance. Even the "filler" track Money Honey is quite biting when you look at it (s-x/love as currency and the other idea of wealth being an expression of love, so currency as a form of love). It's easy to overlook because it's not obvious. The Fame is great, but it does do that faux-disco sound a bit too much for my taste (BDR, TF, Summerboy, Disco Heaven and Retro Dance Freak on the other editions) or that dated 80s synth-pop sound (ILIR, BBB). Very thoughtful insight and a--lysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn 1,042 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Maybe she could just release it through the ARTPOP app for the fans' sake, and move on to single #3. Start with a clean slate. Music videos are way too expensive for that, but who knows? She might do that to give the app a boost :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Venus Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Coincidence? Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I thought you were about to talk about the relation that all the eras have. Paparazzi - Dark Themed = TFM. Alejandro - Experimental tunes, LGTB message = Born This Way. Marry The Night - More Personal, Artistic and Original, Phoenix = ARTPOP. :applause: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan 16,447 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 :wub: tryna go ask Alice, tryna catch that rabbit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic 1,415 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I just don't get why this fan base treat the song so bad. It has one of the best choruses in Gagas career (if not the best), amazing production ( why did she involve infected mushroom, just to record album track?) and wide imaginery potential. When it leaked everybody loved it, there were topics here like 'Did Aura top Bad Romance?' Etc. and now you try to say that because of verse change (like 15sec of song, because second verse sounds the same) the song is bad? It's just nonsense, even media in my country (which are sooo bitter) said good words about the song, when it premiered on VEVO. I think Aura is the best for single because it's big, monumental, lil shocking and memorable, no other ARTPOP song is as unique, except Venus. With good video (telephone cont) I see it gaining massive streaming in the Internet, who cares about radio, Dope peaked at #8 without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer 10,973 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I love Aura >>>>>> The beat, the production, the energy. It's my fave 💚💛💕❣⭕💢💢 | ⓜⓔⓡⓡⓨ ©ⓗⓡⓘⓢⓣⓜⓐⓢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny 12,736 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 To me, the demo was better than studio I like dancin', and ponies.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 43,585 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 It's certainly one of my favs! "****ing rat" - @Dynamite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuyiGaga 98 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 it lost a lot of the grit and raw passion that made the song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 It's good, I just prefer other songs on the album, but it's better than some, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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