Billboard co-director: DWUW- an obvious top 10 hit

[dc1993 1]

This. How it wasn't just chosen as the 2nd single to begin with is rather perplexing 

 

 

keith_caulfield: "Do What U Want" > "Judas"

He's the co-director of charts at Billboard.

 

 

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[PlanetChromatica 2,266]

Reminds me of Rolling Stone calling You and I one of greatest Gaga songs, and Scheisse one of the worst.

It's more traditional (American music) and appeals to more adults. Yes, Yuyi made #6 US.

But it didn't set the world on fire.

HOW CAN THEY CALL SCHEISSE ONE OF GAGAS WORST SONGS. HOW 

[rslayer 0]

uh the word "obvious" tho. meaning, its a safe choice and people will eat it up. i expect this from katy's team, but not from gaga, someone who so willfully pegged ARTPOP to bring art culture into the non artistic space that has become the pop landscape.......

 

 

i actually do really love dwuw, its catchy, i like the message behind it, i find it kind of empowering, etc etc. im just really upset about how it became a single in the first place; on a whim, strictly under the influence of success. venus was chosen as the 2nd single for a reason and she was preparing a lot for it, so stick with it! its such a spineless move. had dwuw been the 3rd single after, i wouldnt care. 

   

MTE. 

[freebit 6,240]

lol, these arguments....DWUW smashed with its only promo being Gaga's messy tweets. It slayed globally despite competition and the Queen laid down her best vocals of her career thus far. Its relatable in the way that Paparazzi was, doesn't mean it's ~generic. The song is hot, lets face it and celebrate it.

[rslayer 0]

im not saying they cant be artistic, but they dont seem to be written in the context of art, if that makes any sense.  

 

to answer, i will use this quote from gaga's v magazine interview

"In pop art, you could make something art just by placing it in a museum and calling it art. but i dont think that trick works anymore. im trying to achieve the opposite; how do i turn a non artistic space, into a space for art?" 

 

   i feel like her music should reflect this attitude, and continue the mission as stated in the ARTPOP press release, of "bringing art culture into pop, heading into the music industry with forte". taking a hip hop song about Jewels N' Drugs, and justifying its purpose by calling it art, is the opposite of ARTPOP. making a bunch of seemingly inconsequential pop songs and saying its art is the trick gaga said she's out to disprove. how about writing more songs that turn the pop landscape inside out, with subjects, ideas, stories, fantasies that challenge people. there only seems to be a small few of those songs we've heard so far in regards to ARTPOP, i mean, i could be wrong, but we know about almost every song now. 

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Could you please stop being so on point so I don't look redundant quoting and agreeing with every comment you make here? 

 

But really, I feel like A LOT of the songs we're getting now, including DWUW, were conceptualised VERY recently. Somehow, I wonder if Interscope maybe asked Gaga to tone down the art to make sure it'd sell more... I mean, she began the campaign SO focused on the art I almost worried it might have turned out too far away from pop. Now I'm worried about the art aspect. So far, as much as I absolutely love most of the songs, TFM and BTW seemed a lot more artistic and daring, lyrically and thematically.

[bionic 49,834]

Gaga disagreed.

[Shaney 5,515]

BS, Interscope is thirsty for that hit and we know it. They just proved it themselves despite tweeting that she doesn't write for the charts yesterday

Interscope didn't tweet that she doesn't write music for the charts, she did. It's also still completely true. She's under contract and she still has to be marketable. However, the marketing aspect of things is mostly under Interscope's control.

How the hell is she suppose to come back and bring ART to the POP scene when she is having mediocre hits like Applause that don't have much worldwide appeal or impact? It's obvious Interscope wants to be safe and build momentum right now instead of taking risks.

That's why I hate when people say stuff like "Why would Gaga release that?" She didn't sis.

[AgusPop 4,141]

Of course baby,

 

I'm so glad Gaga notice this 

[aaronyoji 2,054]

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Love You ^^

 

 

 

 

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Could you please stop being so on point so I don't look redundant quoting and agreeing with every comment you make here? 

 

But really, I feel like A LOT of the songs we're getting now, including DWUW, were conceptualised VERY recently. Somehow, I wonder if Interscope maybe asked Gaga to tone down the art to make sure it'd sell more... I mean, she began the campaign SO focused on the art I almost worried it might have turned out too far away from pop. Now I'm worried about the art aspect. So far, as much as I absolutely love most of the songs, TFM and BTW seemed a lot more artistic and daring, lyrically and thematically.

thank you all for the requotes! it took guts for me to conceptualize that statement and how i wanted to word it, because i feel what ive said holds truth and i can sometimes word it in a way that makes me sound like a hater. musically, im pleased with everything we've heard, but marina abramovic once said, the biggest aspects to art, what makes something art, is all about context and intent. and i see very minimal contextual artistry with the songs we've heard. like, this album maybe full of gems, but not for an album with this title, ya know? if the album was called, "metaphors of love" i wouldn't be so harsh, but by naming it ARTPOP, she obviously wanted to make a statement about her work, what her work is, what her work does for the pop landscape, what she does for art, performance, her creative process, and i'd like to see the music reflect that in the strong, abrasive way she said it would months ago. 

[Vernier 3,786]

thank you all for the requotes! it took guts for me to conceptualize that statement and how i wanted to word it, because i feel what ive said holds truth and i can sometimes word it in a way that makes me sound like a hater. musically, im pleased with everything we've heard, but marina abramovic once said, the biggest aspects to art, what makes something art, is all about context and intent. and i see very minimal contextual artistry with the songs we've heard. like, this album maybe full of gems, but not for an album with this title, ya know? if the album was called, "metaphors of love" i wouldn't be so harsh, but by naming it ARTPOP, she obviously wanted to make a statement about her work, what her work is, what her work does for the pop landscape, what she does for art, performance, her creative process, and i'd like to see the music reflect that in the strong, abrasive way she said it would months ago. 

 

I get what you're saying, but I've always felt for all her words and proclaimations, there's no way as a mainstream pop artiste tied to a record label, she's ever be able to truly realize her "art" concepts. She already talked about how she had to fight for songs to be singles off BTW and how HML would have been a single, but Interscope deemed it too risky. So, you're right maybe it shouldn't have been named ARTPOP, but at the same time, I do feel she's constricted and she can only do what she can within those constrictions.

 

[Mythos 3,199]

thank you all for the requotes! it took guts for me to conceptualize that statement and how i wanted to word it, because i feel what ive said holds truth and i can sometimes word it in a way that makes me sound like a hater. musically, im pleased with everything we've heard, but marina abramovic once said, the biggest aspects to art, what makes something art, is all about context and intent. and i see very minimal contextual artistry with the songs we've heard. like, this album maybe full of gems, but not for an album with this title, ya know? if the album was called, "metaphors of love" i wouldn't be so harsh, but by naming it ARTPOP, she obviously wanted to make a statement about her work, what her work is, what her work does for the pop landscape, what she does for art, performance, her creative process, and i'd like to see the music reflect that in the strong, abrasive way she said it would months ago. 

 

True that, we don't really know what she wanted to do with the ART part, but for now i dont see anything at all. Yes we've got Applause MV, that was kinda Art, but since then everything was just around POP. And its kinda frustrating cause i expected something different. I mean, i like the songs but the Name ARTPOP doesn't suit the Album anymore in my opinion. The Fame Part II would be kinda better :)

 

And nothing wrong with saying your opinion, dont be bothered by people who call you hater, cause you are not!

[Mythos 3,199]

I get what you're saying, but I've always felt for all her words and proclaimations, there's no way as a mainstream pop artiste tied to a record label, she's ever be able to truly realize her "art" concepts. She already talked about how she had to fight for songs to be singles off BTW and how HML would have been a single, but Interscope deemed it too risky. So, you're right maybe it shouldn't have been named ARTPOP, but at the same time, I do feel she's constricted and she can only do what she can within those constrictions.

 

 

I know it must be very hard on her. She had her vision and had to pull back and just do "pop"... and i hate it, i would love to see her real vision for this album, for this era. 

[aaronyoji 2,054]

I get what you're saying, but I've always felt for all her words and proclaimations, there's no way as a mainstream pop artiste tied to a record label, she's ever be able to truly realize her "art" concepts. She already talked about how she had to fight for songs to be singles off BTW and how HML would have been a single, but Interscope deemed it too risky. So, you're right maybe it shouldn't have been named ARTPOP, but at the same time, I do feel she's constricted and she can only do what she can within those constrictions.

 

i guess thats true, but thats what ARTPOP does, it finds that balance between taking artistic musical endeavors and injecting it into pop culture. i feel she has gained enough pop cred and leverage with her label to do so, hence why her 4th album is ARTPOP and not her debut album. that's why ARTPOP she said felt like her first real album, because she's evolved into her truer self with this record, only to be going through this cycle again of her decisions being drowned out by her label. anyway, i kind went on a tangent.