Tommymonster44 0 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I believe that I don't have inflated expectations for her though. I agree with you on the whole experimental cooky side vs. casual/relatable thing, however music is subjective and the only objective part of pop music we have is the charts. Considering Gaga's past career and everything, she has developed her own standard of success and I just want her to match that success. It's not like she let me down, Charts don't govern my life, it's just that I want to see her do really well as an extra perk. Lowering her to a new "normal" of 2x platinum is something that I think she can do better at, especially considering this is her first music after 2.25 years. Also, you are arguing that applause is the new normal based off of nothing except its own chart performance. However, my argument is actually based off of past sales, and in my eyes, Applause underperformed in comparison to the past sales, for lead singles. If this is what the new normal is, then unfortunately, this represents a Gaga in decline. I don't want Gaga to be in decline and for me to except her sales and be satisfied with them is representative of me accepting that she is in decline rather than wanting her to achieve a smash with Applause. That's my point. Her standard success isn't shooting out consistent number ones. Her first three singles of her career went number one because she was the new "it" girl. That's all. Born This Way was just an unusually popular fluke because she had so much hype coming off of TF and the VMA's. When you actually take a look at her discography, she isn't a number one artist, but a top 10 artist. Her first album had three number one's and a top 10. Her second album had three top 5's. Her third album had a number one's, a top 5, and two top 10's. The stan perception that Gaga is a fallen star that used to have an endless string of massive smashes but now can barely scrape a hit is a delusion. She had three exceptionally popular singles during the first few months of her career, and then has consistently had top 5's and top 10's ever since. She never was a number one artist. She's always been a top 10 hit maker. The media just pumped everyone up during the first few years because she was the latest big thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 the video should come same day as the song tho : ( ikr. the fact its not filmed means it wont be out until like the end of november probably. i hope she still has the staying power to last a month without a video.. applause certainly didnt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 apparently PRISM is leaking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 ikr. the fact its not filmed means it wont be out until like the end of november probably. i hope she still has the staying power to last a month without a video.. applause certainly didnt. Unless they'll make it quick. :giggle: "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 britney was rushing to edit her video and even then it was like 4 weeks total editing time, so Venus will need to last at least a few weeks on its own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 That's my point. Her standard success isn't shooting out consistent number ones. Her first three singles of her career went number one because she was the new "it" girl. That's all. Born This Way was just an unusually popular fluke because she had so much hype coming off of TF and the VMA's. When you actually take a look at her discography, she isn't a number one artist, but a top 10 artist. Her first album had three number one's and a top 10. Her second album had three top 5's. Her third album had a number one's, a top 5, and two top 10's. The stan perception that Gaga is a fallen star that used to have an endless string of massive smashes but now can barely scrape a hit is a delusion. She had three exceptionally popular singles during the first few months of her career, and then has consistently had top 5's and top 10's ever since. She never was a number one artist. She's always been a top 10 hit maker. The media just pumped everyone up during the first few years because she was the latest big thing. The Fame only had 2 #1 singles Just Dance and Poker Face. Love Game was number 5 and Paparazzi was number 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemist 0 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 ikr. the fact its not filmed means it wont be out until like the end of november probably. i hope she still has the staying power to last a month without a video.. applause certainly didnt. what was it's lowest point before the video came out? it went from like #2 to what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 idk i just remember it was getting very close to leaving the top 10 percentage wise on kworb and still bleeding LOL. Lets just pray Venus can last longer than a week without the video. maybe itll stick better. lets not panic already, its not even out yet ........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justalovegame 0 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 what was it's lowest point before the video came out? it went from like #2 to what #8. The VMAs had more of an effect on sales than the video iirc Wehave to have faith in Venus though. It'd be pretty sad if she had to release the video the same day as the single for Venus not to "flop." What is she gonna do for the singles after the album? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 13,408 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 iTunes Update 01. Royals - Lorde 02. Wrecking Ball - Miley Cyrus 03. Roar - Katy Perry 04. Wake Me Up - Avicii 05. Hold On, We're Going Home (feat. Majid Jordan) - Drake 06. The Fox (What Does the Fox Say?) - Ylvis 07. Applause - Lady Gaga 08. Counting Stars - OneRepublic 09. Timber (feat. Ke$ha) - Pitbull 10. Survival - Eminem 11. We Can't Stop - Miley Cyrus 12. Demons - Imagine Dragons 13. Holy Grail (feat. Justin Timberlake) - Jay-Z 14. That's My Kind of Night - Luke Bryan 15. Berzerk - Eminem 16. 23 (feat. Miley Cyrus, Wiz Khalifa & Juicy J) - Mike Will Made-It 17. Let Her Go - Passenger 18. Dark Horse (feat. Juicy J) - Katy Perry 19. My N***a (feat. Jeezy & Rich Homie Quan) - YG 20. Radioactive - Imagine Dragons 21. Blurred Lines (feat. T.I. & Pharrell) - Robin Thicke 22. Safe and Sound - Capital Cities 23. Adore You - Miley Cyrus 24. Make You Feel My Love (Glee Cast Version) - Glee Cast 25. Work Bitch - Britney Spears 26. Gorilla - Bruno Mars 27. Marry Me - Jason Derulo 28. Summertime Sadness (Cedric Gervais Remix) - Lana Del Rey 29. Still Into You - Paramore 30. Wasting All These Tears - Cassadee Pope 31. Sail - AWOLNATION 32. Heartbreaker - Justin Bieber 33. Slow Down - Selena Gomez 34. All Me (feat. 2 Chainz & Big Sean) - Drake 35. Brave - Sara Bareilles 36. It Goes Like This - Thomas Rhett 37. Ready Set Roll - Chase Rice 38. Seasons of Love (Glee Cast Version) - Glee Cast 39. Summertime Sadness - Lana Del Rey 40. Everything Has Changed (feat. Ed Sheeran) - Taylor Swift Bubbling Under 46. Burn - Ellie Goulding 52. Give It 2 U (feat. Kendrick Lamar) - Robin Thicke 74. White Walls (feat. ScHoolboy Q & Hollis) - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis 78. Stay the Night (feat. Hayley Williams of Paramore) - Zedd 85. Animals - Martin Garrix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris777 112 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 what was it's lowest point before the video came out? it went from like #2 to what #8 but for a very short time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 apparently PRISM is leaking It's going to leak by Thursday here in the U.S because it's being released in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 #8. The VMAs had more of an effect on sales than the video iirc Wehave to have faith in Venus though. It'd be pretty sad if she had to release the video the same day as the single for Venus not to "flop." What is she gonna do for the singles after the album? Videos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 25. Work Bitch - Britney Spears 26. Gorilla - Bruno Mars :giggle: "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 #8. The VMAs had more of an effect on sales than the video iirc Wehave to have faith in Venus though. It'd be pretty sad if she had to release the video the same day as the single for Venus not to "flop." What is she gonna do for the singles after the album? Let them grow on radio.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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