MonsterOfSpain 8,318 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Then your an idiot. I didn't say it was, then why are you insulting me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunKing 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Then your an idiot. Before you start insulting other members intelligence at least learn the correct grammatical term of "your" - it's "you're" in that context. And 200k is a flop for someone of Gaga's caliber. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat 6,162 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Whatever lol, I listen to the song, watch the video that's about it, think more people should do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielG 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Bad Romance debuted with 142.000, it was later when the song exploded, people here need to stop b---hing, it's so annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Its not surprising though. Its only surprising to the people that deluded themselves into believing her star is as strong as it was 3 years ago. This is the reality of her stature now and its not really that poor. I would have not considered it as surprisingly poor if it'll end up selling close to 300K with a full week availability but the official sales projections do not say so. If she does end up selling around 200K, it would be comparable to the debut stats of the likes of Demi Lovato.  First-week sales are often mainly (and even solely) driven by the core fan base, not the casual mainstream fans or radio. And with this news, it projects that LG's core fan base could no longer deliver huge opening week numbers like it could before. And that's what comes off surprising for some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
000 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) I would have not considered it as surprisingly poor if it'll end up selling close to 300K with a full week availability but the official sales projections do not say so. If she does end up selling around 200K, it would be comparable to the debut stats of the likes of Demi Lovato.  First-week sales are often mainly (and even solely) driven by the core fan base, not the casual mainstream fans or radio. And with this news, it projects that LG's core fan base could no longer deliver huge opening week numbers like it could before. And that's what comes off surprising for some.  I still don't find that surprising. Her core fanbase isn't as strong as it was 3 years ago either. Edited August 15, 2013 by xgagax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,763 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 For a rush-released song from an artist that released nothing in 2 years and has to rebuild her popularity this is pretty good! Also this means more sustained sales as radio airplay rises so she may get #1 later Lastly the US is only 1 Country... World-Wide sales are what matter cause thats the total... And Gaga still beating Perry WW So chilax ppl... It's actually doing quite well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicemuncher 1,708 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 People really need to get out of the Little Monster bubble for a second and think. Had you not read every tweet, announcement and piece of news about the release, you wouldn't have known the song was out. Other than casual radio listeners that probably have a 10-second span for judging a song and moving on to the next radio channel + the iTunes banner, there has been no major outlet that she promoted the song on. Â Give Gaga some time to do some promotion, then we will talk. To the general public who don't watch every interview and video she uploads, she's gone from the eccentric fun sarcastic character of The Fame to a dark place that people can't relate to with the last era. She needs to win some of the casual listeners back to blow up again like she did with Born This Way initially. Â Trust the artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel 3 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Wooot. Great debut numbers. :D Â Â This may not be such a bad thing... Katy Perry is still more fresh on the GP minds so they jumped on her song faster This means as more ppl in the GP get used to the song and remember Gaga again more ppl will buy the song later This means Applause will have more sustained sales for longer when it reaches its peak on the radio at the same time giving her a chance at a #1 later! Â Can I just say how nice it is to see some positivity around here for a change... thanks guys. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,763 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 @pokerface don't forget a lot of sales are also made by less hardcore fans... Ppl in the GP that really like her but are not obsessed enough to keep up with her every move After 2 years of no releases a lot of these less hardcore fans kinda forgot about her and she will have to win them back Katy Perry on the other hand has been away for less time and still on pols minds! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I still don't find that surprising. Her core fanbase isn't as strong as it was 3 years ago either. I partly agree. But each of our reaction to this news, whether we're surprised or not, is purely subjective anyway. And I do respect and understand your take on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
000 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I partly agree. But each of our reaction to this news, whether we're surprised or not, is purely subjective anyway. And I do respect and understand your take on this.  I just think maybe now people here will start looking at her more realistically than continuing to think shes on the same pedestal she was before. Its humbling everybody hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I just think maybe now people here will start looking at her more realistically than continuing to think shes on the same pedestal she was before. Its humbling everybody hopefully. It does. Prior to the release of Applause, only a handful were expecting Katy Perry's Roar to actually debut bigger, well at least within this fan base. And now, the exact opposite is happening. It's surreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
000 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) It does. Prior to the release of Applause, only a handful were expecting Katy Perry's Roar to actually debut bigger, well at least within this fan base. And now, the exact opposite is happening. It's surreal.  Why anyone would've thought Lady Gaga would beat out Katy Perry this time is beyond me. I'm pretty sure that would only be people within this fanbase, if at least predominantly. Edited August 15, 2013 by xgagax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Gypsy 0 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Wow, I was expecting at least a 350 k debut. Still really good numbers considering she's barely coming back from a media blackout, has only done about 2 radio interviews here, & the radio deal hasn't happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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