US Charts Discussion - Track "Applause" here!

[VforVendetta 2,024]

Justin Timberlake had much more hype considering he was absent from music for more than half a decade, he had his album up for pre-order, and he has much broader public appeal than Gaga, and even he failed to sell a million copies. It's not happening.

His fanbase is smaller though and he has much less appeal than Gaga in my country + he was absent for too long + his career has aged much more than Gaga's + the most important thing his music wasn't good!

Edited July 25, 2013 by VforVendetta

[Cherry 17]

Can you explain Taylor racking up 1mili in one week? More than once?

Incredibly large fanbase + appeal with pop and country listeners

She came off of her biggest era when she sold a million copies in 2010, and she had what was at the time the biggest crossover hit of her career when she did it last year.

Taylor is much, much bigger than Gaga in America so she should not be used as a model for comparison.

[Arturo 40,746]

Let's worry about the single for right now, guys.
 

[Cherry 17]

His fanbase is smaller though and he has much less appeal that Gaga in my country + he was absent for too long + his career has aged much more than Gaga's + the most important thing his music wasn't good!

Public appeal > online fanbases. Gaga has a more established fanbase, but Justin Timberlake has basically every demographic on lock. Kids, teenagers, and adults like him. White people and black people like him. Men and women like him. Compare that to Gaga, whose main audience (aside from the monsters) is almost exclusively teenage and young adult white women.

And we're not talking about Greece; we're talking about the States.

[Echo 327]

Incredibly large fanbase + appeal with pop and country listeners

She came off of her biggest era when she sold a million copies in 2010, and she had what was at the time the biggest crossover hit of her career when she did it last year.

Taylor is much, much bigger than Gaga in America so she should not be used as a model for comparison.

 

Why? They're both huge in the U.S. Gaga is still able to pull huge numbers here.

[VforVendetta 2,024]

Incredibly large fanbase + appeal with pop and country listeners

She came off of her biggest era when she sold a million copies in 2010, and she had what was at the time the biggest crossover hit of her career when she did it last year.

Taylor is much, much bigger than Gaga in America so she should not be used as a model for comparison.

She was already overhyped in 2010 befote the beginning of BTW era. Evetyone was relly tired with her. Hert name was everywhere anywhere. The whole thing backfired. It's likeo tower of bricks, it becomes higher and higher but when it becomes too high it loses it's balance and it falls. Gaga's rise to Fame was something so quick and big that the industry had never experienced something like this before. And I think we must agree with Arturo for now ;)

[Runway 27,876]

What happened to Demetria's era?

They gave up already? Two pieces needs to happen

[Cherry 17]

Why? They're both huge in the U.S. Gaga is still able to pull huge numbers here.

Yes, but you don't have to sell a million copies to have huge numbers. I'm not saying she's going to flop, but platinum debuts don't come across very often.

Taylor is a different level of huge. Taylor's lowest selling album in the US has sold just a few hundred thousand copies less than Gaga's highest selling album.

[VforVendetta 2,024]

Public appeal > online fanbases. Gaga has a more established fanbase, but Justin Timberlake has basically every demographic on lock. Kids, teenagers, and adults like him. White people and black people like him. Men and women like him. Compare that to Gaga, whose main audience (aside from the monsters) is almost exclusively teenage and young adult white women.

And we're not talking about Greece; we're talking about the States.

 

I'm not talking only about my country. I gave an example to describe his appeal in Europe. His sales prove that he isn't big in Europe abnymore About gaga, her persona makes her accessible to everyone, it is just her choice to make it more accessible to young people and her fanbase during the BTW era. She also had every demographic during TF + TFM Era. + Timberlake isn't so appealing to teens anymore, he isn't the young buy he once was + his music isn't focusing on very young ages + in the end his music was BAD this era!

 

Edit: I don't think that she will see 1 mll copies though. Ithink that she will land to 700-800K

Edited July 26, 2013 by VforVendetta

[Echo 327]

Yes, but you don't have to sell a million copies to have huge numbers. I'm not saying she's going to flop, but platinum debuts don't come across very often.

Taylor is a different level of huge. Taylor's lowest selling album in the US has sold just a few hundred thousand copies less than Gaga's highest selling album.

 

Well yeah I know what you're saying. I don't think she's going to get a million in the first week either. I was just wanted to have an intelligent conversation :haha:

[Cherry 17]

I'm not talking only about my country. I gave an example to describe his appeal in Europe. His sales prove that he isn't big in Europe abnymore About gaga, her persona makes her accessible to everyone, it is just her choice to make it more accessible to young people and her fanbase during the BTW era. She also had every demographic during TF + TFM Era. + Timberlake isn't so appealing to teens anymore, he isn't the young buy he once was + his music isn't focusing on very young ages + in the end his music was BAD this era!

I'd really rather not continue arguing this point; I've said all that I feel I need to say and the album doesn't even come out until November. I just hope that everyone who keeps insisting she will sell a million copies doesn't think that anything less than that is an underperformance, and that they won't be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

Edited July 26, 2013 by Cherry

[VforVendetta 2,024]

I'd really rather not continue arguing this point; I've said all that I feel I need to say and the album doesn't even come out until November. I just hope that everyone who keeps insisting she will sell a million copies doesn't think that anything less than that is an underperformance, and that they won't be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

OF course I won't be dissapointed. Look my previous post, I edited it.

Edited July 26, 2013 by VforVendetta

[glitterintheair 2]

His fanbase is smaller though and he has much less appeal than Gaga in my country + he was absent for too long + his career has aged much more than Gaga's + the most important thing his music wasn't good!

 

  very subjective.

 

I'm not talking only about my country. I gave an example to describe his appeal in Europe. His sales prove that he isn't big in Europe abnymore About gaga, her persona makes her accessible to everyone, it is just her choice to make it more accessible to young people and her fanbase during the BTW era. She also had every demographic during TF + TFM Era. + Timberlake isn't so appealing to teens anymore, he isn't the young buy he once was + his music isn't focusing on very young ages + in the end his music was BAD this era!

 

Edit: I don't think that she will see 1 mll copies though. Ithink that she will land to 700-800K

 

:eek: again - subjective. and some (not all, of course) teenagers do like justin timberlake. 

 

to add something constructive to this i'd definitely agree that if justin can't, then gaga probably can't either.

Edited July 26, 2013 by glitterintheair

[Jase 13,315]

iTunes Update

 

 

01. Blurred Lines (feat. T.I. & Pharrell) - Robin Thicke

02. Best Song Ever - One Direction

03. We Can't Stop - Miley Cyrus

04. Holy Grail (feat. Justin Timberlake) - Jay-Z

05. Radioactive - Imagine Dragons

06. Beneath Your Beautiful (feat. Emeli Sandé) - Labrinth

07. Get Lucky (feat. Pharrell Williams) - Daft Punk

08. Burn - Ellie Goulding

09. Safe and Sound - Capital Cities

10. Same Love (feat. Mary Lambert) - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis

 

11. Come & Get It - Selena Gomez

12. Cups (Pitch Perfect's “When I’m Goneâ€) [Pop Version] - Anna Kendrick

13. Baby I - Ariana Grande

14. Treasure - Bruno Mars

15. Clarity (feat. Foxes) - Zedd

16. Can't Hold Us (feat. Ray Dalton) - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis

17. Cruise (Remix) [feat. Nelly] - Florida Georgia Line

18. Love Somebody - Maroon 5

19. Everything Has Changed (Remix) [feat. Ed Sheeran] - Taylor Swift

20. I Want Crazy - Hunter Hayes

 

21. Love More (feat. Nicki Minaj) - Chris Brown

22. Runnin' Outta Moonlight - Randy Houser

23. The Other Side - Jason Derulo

24. Mirrors - Justin Timberlake

25. Wake Me Up - Avicii

26. Slow Down - Selena Gomez

27. Gone, Gone, Gone - Phillip Phillips

28. I Need Your Love (feat. Ellie Goulding) - Calvin Harris

29. Just Give Me a Reason (feat. Nate Ruess) - P!nk

30. Don't Drop That Thun Thun - Finatticz

 

31. Boys 'Round Here (feat. Pistol Annies & Friends) - Blake Shelton

32. The Way (feat. Mac Miller) - Ariana Grande

33. Cruise - Florida Georgia Line

34. Sail - AWOLNATION

35. Gas Pedal (feat. IamSu) - Sage the Gemini

36. It Goes Like This - Thomas Rhett

37. My Songs Know What You Did In the Dark (Light Em Up) - Fall Out Boy

38. Summertime Sadness [Cedric Gervais Remix] - Lana Del Rey

39. Wagon Wheel - Darius Rucker

40. Royals - Lorde

 

Bubbling Under

 

55. Demons - Imagine Dragons

67. What About Love - Austin Mahone

90. Let Her Go - Passenger

94. Pompeii - Bastille

[Cherry 17]

This week, Blake Shelton's "Red River Blue" becomes his first million-selling album.

The country singer's set, which re-enters the Billboard 200 chart at No. 194 with a little more than 2,000 sold for the week (up 12%), according to Nielsen SoundScan, just creeps past the 1 million mark. The July 2011 release became his first No. 1 on the Billboard 200, when it debuted at the top slot.

"Red River Blue" spawned four hit singles on the Country Airplay chart, all of which reached No. 1: "Honey Bee," "God Gave Me You," "Drink on It" and "Over."

In other good news for Shelton, his current album, "Based on a True Story," is his fastest-selling release yet. In its 17 chart weeks, it has sold 763,000 copies. Comparatively, "Red River Blue," his last studio set, moved just 381,000 in its first 17 weeks.

"Based on a True Story" also outsells his greatest-hits package, "Loaded: The Best of Blake Shelton" (753,000), to become his fourth-biggest seller to date. His latest set's current single, "Mine Would Be You," debuts at No. 42 on the Country Airplay chart this weekâ€â€his 33rd charting effort.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/4671154/blake-shelton-nets-first-million-selling-album

You've got to be kidding. I know he's not an amazing album seller, but I could have sworn he'd sold a million copies of an album before :deadbanana: