Lorde

[Miranda Sings 1,705]

Whether she's right or wrong, dissing everyone around you at the beginning of your career is a setup for disaster. It's not okay to go around trashing other artists. She's going to be known in a year or two as the girl who sang Royals and dragged every relevant pop star.

[Wet Fire 6,713]

The impact of Scheiße :hor:

[ryhanna 3,507]

She's still right. You can stay pressed.

[Bebe 16,930]

She is wrong about one very important thing - she's saying women are "being portrayed" this way. CORRECTION: women are PORTRAYING THEMSELVES this way. That is an EXTREMELY important distinction.

 

Women - including Miley, Selena, Gaga, all of them - can act however they want. Telling women how to behave, or accusing them of being hypers-xual, is more chauvinistic than anything those women have ever done. Lorde is buying into the patriarchical attitude that a strong woman can't be beautiful or s-xual.

 

THAT IS FOLLY.

 

God I'm sorry, people call her intelligent but she's really not, at all. Just because you're loud doesn't mean you're right.

 

First of all, it is kind of irrelevant whether it is men or women that are portraying females as the submissive and clingly s-x - women in pop music are still being portrayed that way. A lot of women often just fall back into the same gender roles they have been conditioned to fall into since birth. Women are often portrayed in a rather disparaging way and it is important to recognise the differences between how both s-xes are depicted.

 

She didn't tell anyone how to behave, she said that she is tired of women constantly being portrayed in this desperate light. "I need this man, I will love him forever even if he doesn't like me back". There are hardly any other alternative depictions, as I posted earlier in this thread, these are some of the lyrics women sing about.

 

The Lana lyric she quoted a few days ago:

"I will love you to the end of time/ I will wait a million years."

 

The Selena song:

“It’s an open invitation / I’ll be sitting here real patient / All day, all night I’ll be waiting standby.â€

 

Along with other examples she hasn't mentioned

 

Miley Cyrus:

"Don't you ever say I just walked away, I will always love you. I can't live a lie, running for my life, I will always want you."

 

Adele:

 

"I hate to turn up out of the blue uninvited, but I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it. I'd hoped you'd see my face and that you'd be reminded that for me it isn't over."

Taylor Swift"

 

"Please don't be in love with someone else, please don't have somebody waiting on you. Please don't be in love with someone else, please don't have somebody waiting on you."

 

Women are ALWAYS portrayed in this manner. There is this constant desperate "I will always need you" "I will always be there for you, and I will always love you. Even if you don't love me back". There is a plethora of songs from women about how some relationship is failing but she needs him or she will always love him and it isn't something you see with men.

 

She has never said or implied that females cannot be beautiful or s-xual, you have pulled that out of nowhere. What we are discussing is the way s-xuality is portrayed with females and it isn't usually in a very positive light.

 

 

Okay you need to stop mistaking "loud" for "right." She has a big mouth and always speaks her mind, which is nice for her, but not when what she's saying doesn't make any sense. See my comments at the top of page 10 if you need a refresher on why what she said about Selena Gomez makes absolutely no sense. She's setting a dangerous precedent for women being called out just for singing about s-x. If men can do it, why not women?

 

Now for God's sake, the two of you need to stop arguing over who needs to chill, it's stupid.

Let's not act as if men and women are being depicted equally when singing with s-x.

She hasn't said women cannot or should not sing about s-x, her point was about a wider portrayal of women in pop and she was using specific examples to make that point.

[melodichard 3,757]

I wonder when she will bring up Gaga lol

[BlueVenusian 5]

She's a junior in Highschool?! :eek:

[Mark 4,065]

for a rising star... she has lots of critiquing to say.

she should just shut up and talk about herself.

i dont personally listen to her. i dont know if shes good. but she has said enough.

[Bebe 16,930]

 

Lorde: Taylor Swift isn't good for young girls

 

 

 

http://www.justjaredjr.com/2013/09/28/lorde-covers-new-zealands-metro-magazine/

 

 

 

Omg too much is too much

 

 

"bUt wHy cAnT i bE pReTtY??"  

 

 

one of the most annoying sentences I've ever read

Can we not act as if she is coming for Taylor Swift here?

 

In this interview all she said is that it is f*cked up that female celebrities are often glorified for their looks rather than their talent and that it is harmful for young girls to constantly compare themselves to these unattainable standards of beauty and base their worth on how good they look. Did she bash herself here as well? Because she also mentioned herself in there.

"‘I’m never going to be like Taylor Swift, why can’t I be as pretty as Lorde?’ That’s fâ€â€Ã¢â‚¬â€ bullsh*t.â€"

[BlueVenusian 5]

I don't like her.

[Knife 6,652]

So basically, Lorde is blaming Taylor Swift for fulfilling a certain standard of beauty she didn't create. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

 

 

[Giorno Giovanna 3,178]

She wanna become Azealia 2.0

[Neal 768]

She needs to stop. Cause everything she say will be repeated and twisted and God knows what. She's still a developing artist so it isn't healthy for her career to be throwing such bold opinions. It's sad that our industry and GP are like that, but this will come back to her someday and she's not gonna like it.

[jhonyguy04 3]

oh God, can she STFU already. I don't know if it's because she is a teen, but she is really rude. 

[Devil of Pop 0]

She barely has a hit and she thinks she's the biggest thing in music and has he power to take down these celebs. Imagine if she gets any more successful, she'll drag everyone in the music industry.

[JeffSwift 314]

I'm sorry that Lorde's so jealous of Taylor Swift... but she can't help it that she's popular