Biggest mistake during ARTPOP era?

[ThisGuyTony 36,155]

As we celebrate ARTPOP’s 13th year on this Earth, in your opinion, what’s the biggest mistake during the ARTPOP era?

Was it DWUW feat. You-Know-Who?

Not filming a Venus MV?

The media blackout/disapperance?

G.U.Y. as a single?

The vomit performance?

The interviews?

The performances?

Other?

[bxr 3,925]

Support system sabotage … but, lessons never losses; and in the words of the illustrious Robert “Happy Trees” Ross: “We don’t make mistakes, we just have happy accidents.”    

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xoxo, creative rebels built to withstand 

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[Linus Gaga 8,561]

 

 

the aesthetic was kind of MAYHEM. There was so much happening that it eventually got overwhelming and lost the plot. I still loved the era, I just wasn't a fan of how a few tracks literally just lifted pre-made beats straight from the producers, even i loved the final songs.

[dubstep111 810]

Her vomit thing is like my favorite performance from her. Lol for me it’s the Venus music video not being filmed and the whole dwuw thing. Venus should have been second single. Actually aura should have been the first imo.

[bowlcutchris 226]

In reality it’s her whole management team that failed her and pushed ideas THEY thought would be successful instead of what Gaga wanted (Venus v DUWU). I still believe Venus should’ve been the second single and just scrapping DUWU unless it was the solo version. 
 

that being said, I feel the universe corrected itself cause the artRAVE tour was superb, and it eventually led to Gaga working with Tony and eventually Joanne, Super Bowl, Coachella 1.0, ASIB, Chromatica, then MAYHEM. Everything worked out the way it needed to❤️

[Ricardo 8,319]

I still believe the biggest mistake of the ARTPOP era was not releasing the album a year earlier. EDM à la Avicii and Zedd was huge in 2011–2012. Gaga chose to go the BTW route instead of embracing EDM, and by the time ARTPOP came out, everyone was already over it. I think that's why the album was so underappreciated. It was basically like, “Oh, another pop star doing EDM" 

[JoeCool 1,210]

Aguilera should have been on Do What U Want 

 

Admittedly I still like the R Kelly verse but well ya know 

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[ladyabramovic 741]

SXSW performance is legendary in the pop and performance art worlds. Not a mistake.

Biggest mistakes:

- the wig during the ARTPOP vevo artRave in Brooklyn. It was an otherwise impeccable release party.

- missed opportunity: she should have done some pop-ups in galleries or notable art global art events. She didn't tap into the art world side much besides the collabs with Marina and Jeff, and of course Robert Wilson and the Louvre. Wouldv'e loved more. Understandably, her team was a mess so I give her grace.

- releasing the app before it was ever finalized or ever even possible to be what it was marketed to be. 

[Starmie25 23,104]

17 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

not releasing the album a year earlier. EDM à la Avicii and Zedd was huge in 2011–2012

I've always disliked this critique.

It really wasn't your typical EDM album and big electronic infused songs were still huge up till 2015 - Calvin Harris, Flume, Break Free, Faded, SELFIE, Ocean Drive, Pitbull, Galantis etc.

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[monstertoronto 12,188]

I think it was the “pop emergency” because of the leaks that made her release Applause early and it competed head to head with Roar. I feel like the whole emergency positioning made it look like she needed to compete with Katy even though it was for completely unrelated reasons and unfortunately she suffered from comparisons in terms of success for that single (even though Applause remains one of my all time fave songs and it’s ridiculous it was so defeated by something like Roar).

but this rush release and then the perceived failure got the era off to a bad start. 

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[Anderson123 43,181]

Her management screwed them over but i’m curious to know what her plans were to move on so quickly from Born This Way right into ARTPOP in 2012. 

Born This Way is obviously a much stronger album than ARTPOP so I’m wondering what she wanted to do with it because everything was happening so fast. 
 

[Purrrrrr 18,753]

46 minutes ago, dubstep111 said:

Her vomit thing

^ this was a mess, it felt so try hard at the time just to be controversial, that whole performance was  *it's uncomfortable to watch because she's also clearly heavily under the influence of something during it

which is my main issue with the later AP era  nothing felt genuine it felt like trying to be controversial just to be controversial 

that's the biggest mistake imo 

Edited 5 hours ago by Purrrrrr

[mlmc1995 486]

42 minutes ago, dubstep111 said:

Her vomit thing is like my favorite performance from her. Lol for me it’s the Venus music video not being filmed and the whole dwuw thing. Venus should have been second single. Actually aura should have been the first imo.

The vomit performance for me made a huge statement. Not only in terms of the way rape can physically impact a victim, but also the immediate disgust in response to a performance with a bit of liquid spit on her - it’s actually really not that extreme lmao - as opposed to the way rape is treated. One of those things is actually disgusting, and the other isn’t. 

[timdrake 3,292]

sidelining Venus after DWUW became popular. I wish every day there was a video for it  and it seemed like so many moves after that were reactionary based on current public perception vs. carrying out a previously defined plan

[mlmc1995 486]

9 minutes ago, Purrrrrr said:

^ this was a mess, it felt so try hard at the time just to be controversial, that whole performance was  

which is my main issue with the later AP era  nothing felt genuine it felt like trying to be controversial just to be controversial 

that's the biggest mistake imo 

trying to be controversial for the sake of being controversial and it’s an artistic commentary on rape. you don’t have to like it but sometimes life experiences are ugly and physically repulsive. that’s not victims trying to be controversial lol

Edited 4 hours ago by mlmc1995