Slayyyter Is Currently Getting Camila Cabello Special Over Racist Past

[nATAH 59,939]

6 hours ago, ****oDanceFight said:

And before anyone tries to be cute, lest we forget *those* pics of Gaga at Berghain in 2010. 

that was scat make up and gaga had nothing to do with that, i have no idea why this is used against gaga

[Future Lovers 8,043]

3 hours ago, B33Fre33 said:

I can't with how everyone sided with her rather than care for Normani who is literally the same age as her and she throw slur at her while being targeted by everybody else even before she's debuted, like she's a goddamn teen hated for being black. No one in this thread have any right to say to other people especially to black community on how they should feel about Cathy, let her defend herself ALONE cause this her problem and to all the people she's targeted whether she was young or what, all that stuffs that she did are still hers, like it or not. 

Pretty sure the Normani tweets were proven fake

[MadArchitect 1,571]

10 hours ago, BrandyFinest said:

yeah, i agree. thinking camila cabello  is a talented and legitimate enough artist to make a stan account  for is amongst some of the worst things you can do. it doesn't matter how old slayyyter was when she ran the account, if you don't immediately turn off cabelo's gusano slop "music" then I don't respect you. sorry slayyyter, i might unstan. 

"i can excuse racism but i draw the line at a̶n̶i̶m̶a̶l̶ c̶r̶u̶e̶l̶t̶y̶  having camila cabello stan acounts"

[MadArchitect 1,571]

9 hours ago, ****oDanceFight said:

And before anyone tries to be cute, lest we forget *those* pics of Gaga at Berghain in 2010. 

what is wrong with scat? i thought people here don't kink shame....

[MadArchitect 1,571]

11 minutes ago, Future Lovers said:

Pretty sure the Normani tweets were proven fake

how? if gonna make claims might as well post receipts too haha or explain at least

[SleepingSun 1,983]

It appears she has grown up and taken accountability for her atrocious actions back then. We need to give people the opportunity to learn and change. Though I must say those people here saying they don't care about her racist past... You are just as bad as she was back then. I'm not saying she should forever be haunted by her past, just a little more willingness from you to acknowledge she indeed was a bad person once upon a time but appears to have grown out of it. Is it that hard not to be a gutless prick?

Edited October 21 by SleepingSun

[RAMROD 118,661]

7 hours ago, Emigrante said:

Of course, people say all kind of stupid things as a teenagers. 

Nnnnn, having racist past as a teenagers isn't normal unless you surrounded by bigoted people growing up, which is very sad tbh, but shouldn't be normalized  

[nATAH 59,939]

2 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Nnnnn, having racist past as a teenagers isn't normal unless you surrounded by bigoted people growing up, which is very sad tbh, but shouldn't be normalized  

which is exactly why it's dumb to hold people accountable for their actions as a teenager

teenagers are notoriously stupid, ignorant, nasty, misunderstood, complicated and a product of their environment rather than independent versions of their true selves. it's the age of making mistakes and learning from consequences because you're too self absorbed to worry about the world around you

the most important thing to most teenagers is getting wasted, being cool and doing nothing all day, only a portion of those are going to be socially aware of their behaviour and actions

look at how noah schnapp turned from "zionism is sexy" to donating 20k to a fundraiser. he clearly realised he was a product of his surroundings and broke free from that 

[Bronco 29,934]

10 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Nnnnn, having racist past as a teenagers isn't normal unless you surrounded by bigoted people growing up, which is very sad tbh, but shouldn't be normalized  

Its normalising to recognise reality.

Slayyyter is a cis white woman, who grew up in a deep red state in a predominantly white county (89% white when she was a teenager). Her dad was an addict and by her own account in high school she was surrounded by drug abusing teens. 

The very picture of white working class deep red America.

The idea that its not normal to grow up surrounded by casual racism and die hard bigotry in such a place just isnt based in the real world.

Refusing to recognise reality isn't helpful.

[Roughhouse Dandy 14,325]

If there was even a hint of this aspect of her past showing up in her behavior then things would be different, but that was half her life ago when she was a literal child and everything I've seen from her about this has been acknowledgment, apology, and improvement. 

I don't blame any person actually affected by her words for not being willing to forgive and forget, and I'm not forgetting, but I'm personally not holding this against her unless the same mindset bubbles back onto the surface. 

Using this as a stanwar weapon is cringe. 

Edited October 21 by Roughhouse Dandy

[RAMROD 118,661]

39 minutes ago, nATAH said:

which is exactly why it's dumb to hold people accountable for their actions as a teenager

teenagers are notoriously stupid, ignorant, nasty, misunderstood, complicated and a product of their environment rather than independent versions of their true selves. it's the age of making mistakes and learning from consequences because you're too self absorbed to worry about the world around you

the most important thing to most teenagers is getting wasted, being cool and doing nothing all day, only a portion of those are going to be socially aware of their behaviour and actions

look at how noah schnapp turned from "zionism is sexy" to donating 20k to a fundraiser. he clearly realised he was a product of his surroundings and broke free from that 

 

29 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Its normalising to recognise reality.

Slayyyter is a cis white woman, who grew up in a deep red state in a predominantly white county (89% white when she was a teenager). Her dad was an addict and by her own account in high school she was surrounded by drug abusing teens. 

The very picture of white working class deep red America.

The idea that its not normal to grow up surrounded by casual racism and die hard bigotry in such a place just isnt based in the real world.

Refusing to recognise reality isn't helpful.

Those are just perspective from most white people ig 

It's so crazy to me that having racist is considered as part of growth for y'all

But what you think as "teenager being edgy" really bring real effect to those who they targeted. It gave them life long trauma, anxiety issues and depression. Not to mention those kind of actions also emboldened bigoted people from practicing their hate.

In many part of the world, teenagers are already given trust enough to be legally able to drink alcohol. Which means society already give teenagers enough trust to be able to differ right from wrong. So I'm sorry, but hard disagree that we shouldn't hold someone with racist past accountable and that it should be normalized. That is definitely not part of youth being naughty, just as teens committing SA or shooting up their schools isn't either. 

[Sneaky Oliver 23,149]

I will never understand why emerging artists can’t track their problematic posts and take them down as soon as they get famous

i dont know how to feel about it considering all of this is basically from 10+ years ago 

[Bronco 29,934]

30 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

 

Those are just perspective from most white people ig 

It's so crazy to me that having racist is considered as part of growth for y'all

But what you think as "teenager being edgy" really bring real effect to those who they targeted. It gave them life long trauma, anxiety issues and depression. Not to mention those kind of actions also emboldened bigoted people from practicing their hate.

In many part of the world, teenagers are already given trust enough to be legally able to drink alcohol. Which means society already give teenagers enough trust to be able to differ right from wrong. So I'm sorry, but hard disagree that we shouldn't hold someone with racist past accountable and that it should be normalized. That is definitely not part of youth being naughty, just as teens committing SA or shooting up their schools isn't either. 

Here's the thing.

Me and Natah havent argued we shouldn't hold people accountable for their past. 

Nor did I say it was normal for all white people irrespective of environment to have that behaviour normalised from childhood. 

What was said is that teenagers are young, they are immature and they make mistakes based on the environment they have been raised in. Teenagers are only just experiencing independence and freedom, the real world basically. 

They should, as Slayyyter did, be held accountable for their mistakes as teens and the harms it can or may have caused. But if we act as if teens are incapable of growth and refuse to recognise that growth it it occurs, then there's no reason for anyone to change.

And if that's the world we build, the bigotry we see in the current time is only going to continue to get significantly worse. Because we disincentivise making it better. 

We should absolutely normalise recognising growth. 

I was a homophobic closted teen when I was 16 in some social circles. As I am sure many people my age were. I've changed. Should I be permanently cancelled for homophobia as a teen? 

Stormzy was exposed like Slayyyter for having bigoted social media posts at the same age as her. He's a massive advocate for equality and social mobility now as a grown adult with a successful career. Should we cancel Stormzy in spite of the clear obserbable change? 

Change is a fundamental part of humanity and societal function. If we deny it and oppose it. What is the benefit? 

[PornoDanceFight 2,840]

14 hours ago, RAMROD said:

Moot point tbh. That was never her responsibility. Someone decided to dress like that to the party.

And, if we're going to hold the moronic sh*t a 15-year-old said online to the fire, then people can definitely hold that against Gaga.

[PornoDanceFight 2,840]

7 hours ago, nATAH said:

that was scat make up and gaga had nothing to do with that, i have no idea why this is used against gaga

Blackface scat is arguably even WORSE.