UPDATE: 76% Vote To Stay In Canada - Alberta Will Not Be Seperating

[Economy 53,268]

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/tariffs/2026/10/19/its-referendum-day-in-alberta-follow-here-for-live-updates/

 

It should be emphasized the results of this will not be legally binding and it is essentially a referendum on whether or not to have an official referendum to seperate or to not seperate from Canada

 

 

UPDATE: With 76% voting no, Alberta will not be seperating

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/albertans-reject-separation-in-historic-vote-ctv-news-projects-live-updates/

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Economy

[Ayesha Erotica 1,998]

In 1995 49,4% of Québec voted for independence. It failed because Ottawa re-settled pro-Canadians with voting rights from other provinces to Québec. This is why Québec will always be bitter at Ottawa and they must subsidize Q for the rest of their lives as revenge.

If Québec didn't achieve it, it is extremely unlikely that Alberta ever will. Also Alberta must stay within C so that they can continue to pay equalization payments to Q. Q didn't vote, only for A to leave and not get their money. 

An independent Alberta would pose and open new difficulties for British Columbia. 

 

[OMF 3,691]

Why on Earth do they want to seperate from the country? I thought Canada wasn’t messy lol

[Lucas 31,840]

59 minutes ago, OMF said:

Why on Earth do they want to seperate from the country? I thought Canada wasn’t messy lol

It's part of all the extremely random and purely coincidental political things happening all at the same in the entire world

[Economy 53,268]

1 hour ago, OMF said:

Why on Earth do they want to seperate from the country? I thought Canada wasn’t messy lol

They have the Countries highest GDP Per Capita, Nations highest wages, one of the youngest demographics, lowest debt burden of any Province so some feel like they are just draining economic resources being a chronic net contributor to the rest of Canada

 

But "Western Alienation" is what really compounded the sentiment when many felt like Ottawa was always going aganst its interests by being hostile to oil and gas industry.

 

They feel Canada has no issue taking their money but then actively works against their full potential by  blocking pipelines, forcing carbon taxes on them they never supported or wanted implenented and also stiffled their industry with complicated beaureocratic environmental regulations and lengthy approval processes etc (nedless to say Trudeau was absolutely hated by many there as a more left leaning Liberal)

 

Basically in short they feel Canada only takes but doesnt give.

 

Theres always multiple sides to the coin and these are complicated things with a lot of nuance. And some seperatists only look at what they dont like by being part of Canada but ignore downsides of seperation like being landlocked, having new costs like setting up their own defence, a much smaller market etc... so im not saying their arguments make sense in everything, but im explaining the reasons from their point of view

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[Hadrian 2,938]

this will go well 

Edited 21 hours ago by Hadrian

[Economy 53,268]

1 hour ago, Ayesha Erotica said:

In 1995 49,4% of Québec voted for independence. It failed because Ottawa re-settled pro-Canadians with voting rights from other provinces to Québec. This is why Québec will always be bitter at Ottawa and they must subsidize Q for the rest of their lives as revenge.

If Québec didn't achieve it, it is extremely unlikely that Alberta ever will. Also Alberta must stay within C so that they can continue to pay equalization payments to Q. Q didn't vote, only for A to leave and not get their money. 

An independent Alberta would pose and open new difficulties for British Columbia. 

 

British Columbia could also make things hard for Alberta

 

Unlike Quebec, Alberta has no direct access to water which is a major disadvantage as a sovereign Nation and would be reliant on treaties with BC to access ports

[Economy 53,268]

51 minutes ago, Hadrian said:

this will go well 

I think it will but lets see. Polls put suppor for seperation at 25% to 30% range at the most

 

But some have suggested pissed off Albertans who dont really wanna seperate may vote yes just to make a point (especially if they feel confident the vote will be a no anyway) so the ones who may vote yes may exceed the polls if that does indeed happen

[Economy 53,268]

Ughhhhhh results are now delayed. I want to see the results today before I go to bed 

[LaLa 19,942]

9 minutes ago, Economy said:

Ughhhhhh results are now delayed. I want to see the results today before I go to bed 

I was counting on your updates lol, the only news source I trust!

[Economy 53,268]

26 minutes ago, LaLa said:

I was counting on your updates lol, the only news source I trust!

So what do you have to add to this discussion fellow Canadian???

[LaLa 19,942]

9 minutes ago, Economy said:

So what do you have to add to this discussion fellow Canadian???

I'll keep my thoughts about the Worst Province to myself until the results are in 

[Economy 53,268]

5 minutes ago, LaLa said:

I'll keep my thoughts about the Worst Province to myself until the results are in 

Theres a chance my work may open a new branch in Alberta and im considering the move depending on the housing market at the time

 

Not cuz I love the politics there but im sick and tired of working a lot, making an above average wage and still having to tight budget to pay bills confortably. We do not indulge in much and there still isnt a tone left over despite 2 fulltime incomes and no kids

 

In AB I could buy a bigger house for cheaper and potentially actually shrink my mortgage even with transaction/moving costs

[Ayesha Erotica 1,998]

12 minutes ago, Economy said:

In AB I could buy a bigger house for cheaper and potentially actually shrink my mortgage even with transaction/moving costs

but it's not really an attractive province judged by culture, history, metropolitan cities, sêxiness, major sights, leisure activities, climate 

It's mainly a ressource-rich low-tax worker friendly province where only people who are interested into @Economy would move 

1 hour ago, Economy said:

Ughhhhhh results are now delayed. I want to see the results today before I go to bed 

We can braid the hair of your wife in your bed if you want to bridge time. 

2 hours ago, Economy said:

Unlike Quebec, Alberta has no direct access to water which is a major disadvantage as a sovereign Nation and would be reliant on treaties with BC to access ports

I agree that being landlocked is a major disadvantage

I will never understand how Serbia allowed Montenegro to become independent. 

or how Austria spent centuries without Germanizing at least a few Mediterrean towns despite ruling them for centuries

though Alberta could still import stuff from the US 

I agree that this vote is more about getting more autonomy than about getting independent 

Did you know that Chinas poorest part is North-East China that is landlocked because North Korea and Russia block them from Sea of Japan and the Harbor of Vladivostok is dysfunctional? Like China can transport goods there but because the Russian port is so shîtty, development is slow and bad 

[27monster27 16,288]

I feel like a balkanized North America (and Russia and China) would make the world a better place.