llemesm 2,235 Posted Saturday at 04:45 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:45 PM 10 hours ago, nATAH said: cus its stealing art and jobs and churning out awful design everywhere then criticize the companies exploiting artists and replacing workers, not the technology itself. every major technological shift has changed how people work ElsaMars 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainMonster 3,028 Posted Saturday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:48 PM 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 175,717 Posted Saturday at 04:53 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:53 PM 5 minutes ago, llemesm said: the way you wrote an entire paragraph and still managed to confuse AI with capitalism 💀 maybe direct that energy toward the people exploiting workers instead of demonizing a technology Well, AI is being used to exploit and hurt people. That's the thing. The technology itself is good, great even. If it were a publicly owned entity, kinda like vaccines and other "for the greater good" tech, instead of being weaponized by the rich to het richer, we'd probably universally love it. I think it's pretty obvious when people say they hate AI they're referring to the intentions of the people who currently control it and the methods through which it currently operates. Whimsical bitch 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint satine 250 Posted Saturday at 04:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:54 PM 10 hours ago, nATAH said: incredibly depressing to see users here be so pro AI on a website of lady gaga of all people the damage it's doing to the world environmentally and visually and you're all just gunna roll over and accept it pathetic users here are pro-everything-that-their-favs-do LMAO you should check out other threads like this, it's pure cognitive dissonance ⋆˚࿔ 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥, 𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘦! 𝜗𝜚˚⋆ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilia Malinin 3,218 Posted Saturday at 04:59 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:59 PM 10 hours ago, AndiGaga said: AI is here to stay, like the internet, smartphones etc. Get used to it friends no. i'm not going to "get used to" something that is actively taking money from my f*cking pocket. i'm a graphic artist and graphic designer by trade, freelance, and get no work anymore because anything i can do and charge appropriately for, ai will sh*t out in 2 seconds. i'm going to be loud as f*ck about my distain for genai. everyone keeps saying "oh, he's back, he's back!" but the truth is i never left! 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 14,136 Posted Saturday at 05:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:01 PM Every day I try to see people as innately intelligent and good. Everyday I'm disappointed by people hell bent on destruction over keeping the treats that keep them docile. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndiGaga 7,331 Posted Saturday at 05:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:05 PM 4 minutes ago, Ilia Malinin said: no. i'm not going to "get used to" something that is actively taking money from my f*cking pocket. i'm a graphic artist and graphic designer by trade, freelance, and get no work anymore because anything i can do and charge appropriately for, ai will sh*t out in 2 seconds. i'm going to be loud as f*ck about my distain for genai. I am REALLY sorry for you!! But you will need to adapt. Offer something that is unique and needs a human view. Its in your best interest because AI isn't going anywhere. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llemesm 2,235 Posted Saturday at 05:09 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:09 PM 14 minutes ago, PartySick said: Well, AI is being used to exploit and hurt people. That's the thing. The technology itself is good, great even. If it were a publicly owned entity, kinda like vaccines and other "for the greater good" tech, instead of being weaponized by the rich to het richer, we'd probably universally love it. I think it's pretty obvious when people say they hate AI they're referring to the intentions of the people who currently control it and the methods through which it currently operates. Very true! I'm not denying that AI raises legitimate concerns about artists' rights, consent, working conditions, and job displacement. Those deserve to be taken seriously. But exploitation existed long before AI, from underpaid garment workers to the people mining the materials in our phones, and most people barely think about it when they consume those products. AI is an easier target because it's new and controversial. This technology isn't going away, so I'd rather see people fight for ethical AI, fair compensation, and regulations that protect workers than pretend we can stop progress by demonizing it ElsaMars 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint satine 250 Posted Saturday at 05:15 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:15 PM (edited) some of you guys are VERRRYY close to figuring out that capitalism is the root issue in this thread. edit: but honestly, it's tiring to see people talking about ''b-but what about nestle!1! what about the diamond miners!1!'' and so on, but only when another related issue is brought up. it just creates some sort of paradox and cycle where you can't care about anything at all because people will use other issues to argue against change. fight for change, people. fight for it, instead of ''adapting and accepting.'' every single one of these issues matters. though i promise you, it somehow always leads back to capitalism LOL Edited Saturday at 05:24 PM by saint satine ⋆˚࿔ 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥, 𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘦! 𝜗𝜚˚⋆ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 13,861 Posted Saturday at 05:20 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:20 PM 5 hours ago, AndiGaga said: Thats a bit harsh, dont you think? I understand all of that, thats not a good thing. But it just will be the new reality of the world and imo its better to adapt than get thrown under the bus. Fighting back is important but you will not change the trajectory of AI completely. Its already getting used EVERYWHERE and its only here for a few years. The world will be a different one in 5 years. I'd rather be ready for that than close my eyes and get just upset about it. We can't stop progress (and probably don't want to?) but we can protest how the technology is used and ask for regulations. This type protest has worked a lot of times throughout history it's really not hopeless the meow in zombieboy 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 5,053 Posted Saturday at 05:27 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:27 PM We are at the point where all creatives on a project need to sign contracts stating they will not use generative AI in their work process under penalty of legal action. Otherwise artists have no way to ensure this does not happen to them against their knowledge. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 59,271 Posted Saturday at 05:30 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:30 PM 43 minutes ago, llemesm said: then criticize the companies exploiting artists and replacing workers, not the technology itself. every major technological shift has changed how people work we ARE and you blindly embracing it IS part of the problem aren't you an author too? how are you not worried about this? just weird mother, what must i do? 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 14,136 Posted Saturday at 05:30 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:30 PM 4 minutes ago, Ivy said: We can't stop progress (and probably don't want to?) but we can protest how the technology is used and ask for regulations. This type protest has worked a lot of times throughout history it's really not hopeless But no. We just need to get used to it and stop complaining about the poison in our water because now people can make their phones do their homework or mash up existing art to make pretty pictures they ask for! 🥺 It's like trying to guide toddlers away from the screen when cocomelon is on. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 29,042 Posted Saturday at 05:34 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:34 PM 47 minutes ago, llemesm said: the way you wrote an entire paragraph and still managed to confuse AI with capitalism 💀 maybe direct that energy toward the people exploiting workers instead of demonizing a technology GenAI is a tool of capitalism. The technology is being designed specifically to replace workers. GenAI would no exist if it did not benefit the goal of the CEO class. The gays know how to party 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 175,717 Posted Saturday at 05:34 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:34 PM 24 minutes ago, llemesm said: Very true! I'm not denying that AI raises legitimate concerns about artists' rights, consent, working conditions, and job displacement. Those deserve to be taken seriously. But exploitation existed long before AI, from underpaid garment workers to the people mining the materials in our phones, and most people barely think about it when they consume those products. AI is an easier target because it's new and controversial. This technology isn't going away, so I'd rather see people fight for ethical AI, fair compensation, and regulations that protect workers than pretend we can stop progress by demonizing it I'm just saying you're splitting hairs Hardly anyone complains that AI exists period. When they complain about it they're referring to the greed, corruption, and abuse. Whimsical bitch 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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