Molly now costs $15 million

[Bronco 28,922]

9 minutes ago, nATAH said:

clearly it wasn't because why would a shop turn down a 15k sale? as someone else said, that price tag image wasn't for the bird directly

Retailers of all kinds curate their customer base. I've worked places where we were told to discretely encourage people to leave if they were seen as a negative image for the store/bar.

And we now have video evidence that appears to back up Kelly's version of events where there was a short dismissive conversation followed by her immediately leaving. This idea that there was a detailed conversation where they reached out to the artist to agree him selling their only other copy just doesn't look at all realistic now given the store tried to claim it was done in front of Kelly.

[robotvoiceinalice 2,152]

this whole thing is a mess, but im taking Kelly's side

[nATAH 59,064]

8 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Retailers of all kinds curate their customer base. I've worked places where we were told to discretely encourage people to leave if they were seen as a negative image for the store/bar.

And we now have video evidence that appears to back up Kelly's version of events where there was a short dismissive conversation followed by her immediately leaving. This idea that there was a detailed conversation where they reached out to the artist to agree him selling their only other copy just doesn't look at all realistic now given the store tried to claim it was done in front of Kelly.

she was completely dressed like everybody else though, virtually the same outfit as the employees, nothing about her stuck out as negative or to curate an image

she was told no and went entitled white woman mode, she didn't even wanna listen to him offer the alternative that's probably directly for sale

[Bronco 28,922]

1 minute ago, nATAH said:

she was completely dressed like everybody else though, virtually the same outfit as the employees, nothing about her stuck out as negative or to curate an image

she was told no and went entitled white woman mode, she didn't even wanna listen to him offer the alternative that's probably directly for sale

Watch the video.

The salesman walks away from her before she even begins to put things back on the shelf in their place and leave the store. So when did he offer this alternative? And at what point did he reach out to the artist while Kelly was there for the alternative which was the original claim?

As for "she looks like everyone else".

That backs up her claim of rude dismissiveness. 

I don't think she needed to blast them online. I think that was a step to far given her platform. 

But as things continue to move on this asinine story, the one thing becoming clear is that Kelly's version of events seem the most accurate. Especially since she's not changed her story at any point lol

[nATAH 59,064]

1 minute ago, Bronco said:

Watch the video.

The salesman walks away from her before she even begins to put things back on the shelf in their place and leave the store. So when did he offer this alternative?

he literally does it here but she ignores him, something that's happened to me many times as an employee lol

[Bronco 28,922]

3 minutes ago, nATAH said:

he literally does it here but she ignores him, something that's happened to me many times as an employee lol

He literally walks away from her in this moment.

And that's not the alternative I'm talking about. As I have repeatedly said in that post - the original claim is that they contacted the artist for kelly to arrange her getting an alternative to the specific Molly they had in store. That clearly does not happen.

So again. 

When does he offer her the alternative Molly via contact with the artist before Kelly leaves?

[nATAH 59,064]

Just now, Bronco said:

He literally walks away from her in this moment.

And that's not the alternative I'm talking about. As I have repeatedly said in that post - the original claim is that they contacted the artist for kelly to arrange her getting an alternative to the specific Molly they had in store. That clearly does not happen.

So again. 

When does he offer her the alternative Molly via contact with the artist before Kelly leaves?

he walks away and points at another product which i assume is the $2k dollar bird alternative from the OG story

i didn't read any more claims after that but i'm guessing their lies and dismissive attitude is because they cba to do all that extra work for what isn't a direct sale and for a customer with a bad attitude

there's no way a store is passing up a really easy $15k so i choose to believe it wasn't for sale in the store but through the artist as a third party

 

[dynamite 67,859]

I can't believe the Molly Clarkson saga is still a thing 

That CCTV video was annoying to watch (I wanted to watch the footage not whoever those podcast guys are)

Edited Wednesday at 06:53 AM by dynamite

[Bronco 28,922]

6 minutes ago, nATAH said:

he walks away and points at another product which i assume is the $2k dollar bird alternative from the OG story

The 2k bird alternative is what he's offering her before he walks away and she starts putting things back. If you watch the reaction vid you've shared. 

7 minutes ago, nATAH said:

a customer with a bad attitude

A customer with a bad attitude who puts the items she was ready to purchase back on the specific shelves they came from before walking out. 

7 minutes ago, nATAH said:

there's no way a store is passing up a really easy $15k so i choose to believe it wasn't for sale in the store but through the artist as a third party

And yet they are now listing the bird they said isn't for sale with an updated price tag. 

Why do we think Kelly, if she really wanted the piece, would turn down them explaining that they're able to get her the bird via the artist? 

We both think its stupid for a store to turn down a guaranteed sale. 

So why has it happened? 

With all available evidence there's a very clear logical story as to why the guaranteed sale didn't happen.

Kelly claimed they were dismissive, told her it wasn't for sale and directed her to the 2k alternative. 

The store originally claimed that they told Kelly that the in store piece wasn't for sale but that they then on the spot contacted the artist to arrange him selling his only other copy to Kelly. And then they offered her the 2k alternative. 

The CCTV evidence does not support the store's version of events (presumably leaked by the store).

The store has since changed their story to state that they had prior authorisation from the artist to arrange the sale of the 2nd Molly for the 15k price listed and told Kelly this.

This now begs the question - why was this not said in the first public statement? Particularly as if true, it would rubbish Kelly's entire post. And then the only logical explanation for the 2k alternative offer is that she refused the offer of buying the artist's piece on arrangement. 

But that wasn't what the store originally claimed. And the bird that isn't for sale had a price tag and is now relisted instore at a higher price - so at all possible opportunities they advertising the bird as being on sale. 

So lets be real here.

A spoiled millionaire demon f*g got called out. Yeah Kelly ****ed up by going full Karen on twitter and setting the parasocial ****wits on the store.

But lets not defend the f*gs who are blatantly lying. They've upped their prices. They've gone to the classic spoilt rich white demon twink school of notoriety = profit. 

Both sides in a fight can be wrong. 

[nATAH 59,064]

7 minutes ago, Bronco said:

The 2k bird alternative is what he's offering her before he walks away and she starts putting things back. If you watch the reaction vid you've shared. 

A customer with a bad attitude who puts the items she was ready to purchase back on the specific shelves they came from before walking out. 

And yet they are now listing the bird they said isn't for sale with an updated price tag. 

Why do we think Kelly, if she really wanted the piece, would turn down them explaining that they're able to get her the bird via the artist? 

We both think its stupid for a store to turn down a guaranteed sale. 

So why has it happened? 

With all available evidence there's a very clear logical story as to why the guaranteed sale didn't happen.

Kelly claimed they were dismissive, told her it wasn't for sale and directed her to the 2k alternative. 

The store originally claimed that they told Kelly that the in store piece wasn't for sale but that they then on the spot contacted the artist to arrange him selling his only other copy to Kelly. And then they offered her the 2k alternative. 

The CCTV evidence does not support the store's version of events (presumably leaked by the store).

The store has since changed their story to state that they had prior authorisation from the artist to arrange the sale of the 2nd Molly for the 15k price listed and told Kelly this.

This now begs the question - why was this not said in the first public statement? Particularly as if true, it would rubbish Kelly's entire post. And then the only logical explanation for the 2k alternative offer is that she refused the offer of buying the artist's piece on arrangement. 

But that wasn't what the store originally claimed. And the bird that isn't for sale had a price tag and is now relisted instore at a higher price - so at all possible opportunities they advertising the bird as being on sale. 

So lets be real here.

A spoiled millionaire demon f*g got called out. Yeah Kelly ****ed up by going full Karen on twitter and setting the parasocial ****wits on the store.

But lets not defend the f*gs who are blatantly lying. They've upped their prices. They've gone to the classic spoilt rich white demon twink school of notoriety = profit. 

Both sides in a fight can be wrong. 

i really don't care enough for either pro AI kelly or this uppity poser store to debate this at 8am ngl

[nATAH 59,064]

10 minutes ago, dynamite said:

 

That CCTV video was annoying to watch (I wanted to watch the footage not whoever those podcast guys are)

same it was p*ssing me offffff

[Helxig 45,919]

Ravers are gonna be PISSED

[MountainMonster 2,990]

This was much less fun to read than I was hoping. But also, regardless of the situation; it’s wild that a celebrity would put a small business on blast. 

[MadArchitect 1,545]

3 hours ago, Bronco said:

The store originally claimed that they told Kelly that the in store piece wasn't for sale but that they then on the spot contacted the artist to arrange him selling his only other copy to Kelly. And then they offered her the 2k alternative. 

where did they claimed they ON THE SPOT contacted the artist to arrange him selling another automaton? i read their statements and they never said such thing. We have evidence that the bird is the store's mascot and is not for sale from months prior in their social media, so that is a fact, that singing bird specifically was just not for sale as it is attached to the wall, the reason of the price tag is because as many people have asked to buy it, they could commission the artist to make another identical automaton or sell the copy they own if they wanted a similar one, that can be explained in 3 seconds, and why would anyone get upset by it unless they misunderstand and interpret the most uncharitable thing? 

the store first claim was just the bird was not for sale, their second was it was not for sale and the reason it had a price tag was because they could commission the artist or sell the copy they own. they never contradicted themselves or backtracked...

Edited Wednesday at 10:12 AM by MadArchitect

[MadArchitect 1,545]

12 hours ago, monstertoronto said:

But they didn’t even answer the question about the price tag. When directly asked about the fact there was a price tag, they just sidestepped the question and told an anecdote that they talked to the creator that if someone was interested they would talk to him about it, but it doesn’t explain why they put up a price tag for $15k. They do say they have now raised the price but it’s annoying that they couldn’t explain why they put a price tag on it if it wasn’t for sale. 

girl what? they directly answered the question.. getting them an automaton commissioned by the artist would cost them 15k, that's the price tag...

Edited Wednesday at 10:10 AM by MadArchitect