MOT 3,654 Posted Saturday at 09:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:26 AM 21 minutes ago, Bambino said: I agree that she has never been literally obliged to speak. But that isn't really the point I was making. I'm talking about whether her choice to speak or remain silent is consistent with the values and causes she has publicly championed over the years. Having the freedom not to get involved doesn't make that choice immune from criticism or discussion. We can acknowledge that she has no formal obligation to speak while still asking what her silence or engagement means in light of her own stated values. By all means I think we can note and discuss the fact that she has often spoken up in the past and is not doing so now. But criticize ? Express disapproval/find fault/judge (the dictionary explanation of ctiticize) ? I part company with you there. And that's ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 6,060 Posted Saturday at 09:36 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:36 AM Y'all are so tired. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 28,030 Posted Saturday at 09:45 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:45 AM 18 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: Why is it that all the newer accounts lately have been genocide defenders bent on antisemitically conflating "Jewish" with "Zionist"? Very strange. Very gross. Nah I was saying this in another thread recently. Most of the weird Zio accounts & general right wing weirdos recently have all been newish accounts or people with low rep who haven't been active in awhile suddenly turning up to say the most out of pocket **** The gays know how to party 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 3,654 Posted Saturday at 09:48 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:48 AM 2 hours ago, Bronco said: As I've made clear. Anyone who has been on policy making bodies should expect to be challenged on their politics. We disagree. We'll both survive it.🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevthepaparazzo 2,623 Posted Saturday at 10:03 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:03 AM On 9/18/2026 at 10:23 AM, Forest said: Anti-Semitism is now normalized and even seen as cool by younger generations, it’s at an all time high since the Holocaust. oh god and i wonder WHY Anything goes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpmcmill 2,013 Posted Saturday at 10:37 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:37 AM On 9/17/2026 at 8:23 PM, Forest said: No, she shouldn’t. You know Gaga, and basically every other big artist like Beyonce or Taylor, would’ve done exactly the same as Ed Sheeran, right? Gaga likely has a very sensible opinion on the conflict. She probably supports a two-state solution. But for most pro-Palestinian people anything other than “Israel should be wiped off the map” is not enough. These are not reasonable people. Gaga now has a half-Jewish child, and her safety is her priority now. Anti-Semitism is now normalized and even seen as cool by younger generations, it’s at an all time high since the Holocaust. These people can get very violent. Just a few months ago, a terrorist in Michigan tried to murder over 100 children at a Jewish daycare. This. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,407 Posted Saturday at 10:39 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:39 AM 1 hour ago, MOT said: By all means I think we can note and discuss the fact that she has often spoken up in the past and is not doing so now. But criticize ? Express disapproval/find fault/judge (the dictionary explanation of ctiticize) ? I part company with you there. And that's ok. That doesn't mean her silence is above fans' disapproval especially, while she has said nothing, some actions spoke louder than words. No matter how you twist it around, no matter how many excuses you can come up with, she's being called out and for a good reason Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 Ft Queenie 669 Posted Saturday at 11:09 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:09 AM (edited) On 9/17/2026 at 8:38 PM, Forest said: Also, have you guys ever considered the possibility of Gaga actually being pro-Israel? Gaga grew up on the Upper West Side, which is the most Jewish neighborhood in Manhattan along with the Upper East Side, with a lot of Israeli friends, listening to Israeli music and going to Israeli restaurants. I’m sure she’s sad about the situation in Gaza, but I do believe she has a positive view of Israel. I'm GLAD someone is finally pointing this out!!!!!! SHE SAID “I ****ING LOVE YOU ISRAEL AFTER A MASSACRE” 2014 Battle of Shuja'iyya 😡 AND CALLED ISRAELS BRAVE ➡️That's when artists really started boycotting and signing papers against Isra ****, like Tori Amos. Occupied Palestine scenically is stunning that's why they stole it and that's why gaga loves it. It's Mediterranean. She probably agrees that “Jewish people need a home! where will they go?!? They have done nothing wrong!” Pretty much the same view point my inlaws have and manyyyyyyyy Jewish families (& non jewish faJewish) - michael is Jewish . Gaga is on the wrong side of her history and her legacy is questionable all she stood for. It’s too late - she won’t ever speak up she has a good impression of Israel and is married to Michae.:. & really close to his mom(No, I am not anti semantic I am married to a Jew and went to temple school for 7 years. ) It's up to you wether you listen to Gaga or not,I haven't in a few months... I simply can't. Instead of worrying about celebrities time is urgent!!! 🚑🚨🚨🚨🚨 💡People should Put time and energy into sourcing out how to help people in Palestine like donating to the famous soup kitchen! It one of the multiple animal rescues - who have no supplies!!!Desperately need our help 👇🏻👇🏻 LINKS https://gazasoupkitchen.org https://donorbox.org/support-animal-care-group-mission?fbclid=PAVERFWAUbThtwZG9mAmZkaWQWUOtU46Yi6cIIdj04HlOtau8p2UcvXWV4dG4DYWVtAjEwAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDzEyNDAyNDU3NDI4NzQxNAABp3g7HtwjMvSDMPE4TPVLt1TYzORJZnESp82rFq8H5ISjm9tRhLxNvnl2MZ2a_aem_ezAAZ4PUpT2WhjAvOMbiBw Important animal group ^ Edited Saturday at 11:16 AM by 50 Ft Queenie Free Palestine 🍉 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,657 Posted Saturday at 11:25 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:25 AM Alright, you guys have officially reached the degree of annoying that I'm not willing to moderate any longer. Wanting Gaga to speak on a topic we all care about is so valid and something I agree with but once you start digging deeper into this crap about "well, she's marrying Jewish and has Jewish family so she MUST be sympathetic to genocide deniers and zionists". That's just borderline ignorant antisemitism at best. That's the most charitable take I can have on some of the stupider things that have been said in this thread. So basically, go debate this on reddit, X, TikTok, or wherever else. Whimsical bitch 4 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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