Trailer: HBO MAX's Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone

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The poisoned apple this will be to watch or not watch this  

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3 hours ago, Eido said:

While I understand why everybody is against Rowling, you all have to seriously stop acting like she has done all this by herself. 

She literally has the final say in licensing, publishing, and adaptation rights. WB doesn’t own it outright, and she has final say down to how the merchandise looks and what they can and can’t include in the theme parks.  

3 hours ago, Eido said:

but yeah you need to grow up sometimes 

it’s ok to have your opinion, just make it make sense

The irony of saying we need to grow up when defending watching a children’s fantasy series by a transphobe…would you say this to a trans person’s face whose rights are being stripped away due to legal challenges Rowling is funding just so you can enjoy a tv show?

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1 hour ago, codymonster said:

It’s just like the people bitching about billionaires and then going on Facebook and Instagram all day every day. It’s never as simple as it seems, and when we try to simplify it with overall general statements, it leaves no room for gray.

So yes, I will watch. And no, I’m not supporting a transphobe. I am supporting a IP that I really love, and supporting countless people who have poured their hearts and souls into this, and yes, I will be putting my money towards her, but I do that all the time. Their are terrible people everywhere, and my money will go to them.

The obvious difference is that HP isn’t an institution or entangled in our daily lives. I have to use Microsoft for work; I have to buy gas; I have to use a computer for communication, lesson planning, and more to exist in the 21st century.

We literally don’t need to watch this series when there is so much children’s fantasy to consume. Literally Avatar: the Last Airbender covers the same themes, narrative beats, and character arcs HP does, and does it better.

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1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

A cinematic masterpiece that only holds if you saw it for the first time when you were under the age of 10? Something ain’t adding up…

What?

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29 minutes ago, NUTELLA said:

What?

I don’t think it’s a cinematic masterpiece because it strikes me that most of the attachment people have to it comes from the nostalgia of watching it as a kid. Fun flick, masterpiece it ain’t.

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Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I don’t think it’s a cinematic masterpiece because it strikes me that most of the attachment people have to it comes from the nostalgia of watching it as a kid. 

Now you're just talking out of your prolapse, ghoulfriend

You know that adults saw it in 1993 too, right? Not just kids

It was, in fact, the highest-grossing movie of all time (at that time) 

& was hailed as a milestone/turning point in filmmaking.

 

Your nostalgia argument could work on a movie like Hocus Pocus, but not Jurassic Park

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I wasn’t excited about this at all before the trailer but after seeing the visuals, cast, and costuming, I still feel nothing towards this series bc of Rowlings bigotry. She destroyed her own series and I will always harbor bad feelings about a former beloved franchise

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12 minutes ago, NUTELLA said:

Now you're just talking out of your prolapse, ghoulfriend

You know that adults saw it in 1993 too, right? Not just kids

It was, in fact, the highest-grossing movie of all time (at that time) 

& was hailed as a milestone/turning point in filmmaking.

 

Your nostalgia argument could work on a movie like Hocus Pocus, but not Jurassic Park

Yeah, many adults who took kids and some of whom enjoy cinematic amusement park style spectacle. It being high grossing and having an adult audience doesn’t make it a masterpiece, it just means that it’s an engaging and entertaining movie (which I never contested). I just said I don’t think the “masterpiece” claim holds up past some of the nostalgia factor, not that it’s a bad movie. 

I also never said that nostalgia was its *sole* appeal, it just strikes me that most people I talk to *now* primarily have a formative attachment to it which, as someone who saw the movie for the first time at 20, I think shapes the convo surrounding it. 

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Anyway, I’m more than happy to stop derailing this thread. Truce, @NUTELLA?

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Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Anyway, I’m more than happy to stop derailing this thread. Truce, @NUTELLA?

Well you’re wrong about JP (& I hope @PartySick uses her moderator privilege to bind you like a goat inside a tyrannosaur paddock)

HOWEVER, in the interest of trying to quell any further argument, let me tell you that I have been trying since yesterday to find a clip I thought you would appreciate.... but it seems youtube deleted it.

So I’ll just need to tell you about it:

it’s from a behind the scenes documentary about the making of Hocus Pocus. Bette Midler is talking to Kenny Ortega on set... describing to him in detail how she wants post-production to make her electrokinetic powers look, & I quote,

“like Star Wars… like, VOOOOM!”

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HP holds a very special place in my childhood heart - went to the midnight book releases, screenings, etc. If this had looked in any way unique, fresh, or different I might have overlooked her BS and tried to watch. But it literally looks like the 2001 movie - the color tones, set, costuming, everything. I don't understand the point of making a drawn out series that is just a re-do of the 2000's movies with the only difference being that Snape is black.

 

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23 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

The concept of Illinois being part of New England 

Oop! Midwest Witches CLOCKED 😂. The other Mainers around me would react exactly like this too

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On 9/3/2026 at 8:13 AM, Eido said:

but yeah you need to grow up sometimes 

it’s ok to have your opinion, just make it make sense

It’s more grown up to just own your choices and not be pretentious. If you want to watch, go for it. But don’t ask for absolution for doing so or criticize others for feeling passionately that people shouldn’t because JK Rowling continues to harm trans people WITH funds from the IP. So yes, the IP IS the problem now. Blame her for that not us.
And maybe don’t match blanket statements with more blanket statements because you demand nuance that isn’t there. 

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On 9/3/2026 at 1:13 PM, Eido said:

While I understand why everybody is against Rowling, you all have to seriously stop acting like she has done all this by herself. 
she sold the movies and tv rights decades ago and that was negociated with royalties yes but don’t think she is gonna get billions because of this and not even a million especially since we are talking about a tv show and not movies. Also she is a producer so she is probably investing more than receiving money. It’s the merch and books that give her money.

the profits of this will go towards thousands of people including the crew.

I was against watching it because it felt like just too easy to remake this

but I am not gonna lie I am excited to watch it and explore more than what we saw in the movies. The movies will always be fond memories and part of my life but yeah it’s also ok to see another take on this. 
also I am glad they corrected the colours 

 

but yeah you need to grow up sometimes 

it’s ok to have your opinion, just make it make sense

This would be all fine and dandy if she didn’t explicitly state she is using her wealth to directly try and stop trans people from being allowed to essentially exist in public life. She’s already trying to help fund a lawsuit from TERFs who are trying to stop gender neutral bathrooms at an NHS hospital for instance and has tweeted she won’t stop until trans people aren’t legally allows in a space that isn’t defined by sex.

It’s not like she’s doing little, she’s doing a lot, consistently posting about it and supporting TERFs worldwide.

Ironically she benefited from pretending to be a man to get Harry Potter published in the first place. And she even has told a story about how she “didnt feel like a girl” when she was younger, she’s a hypocrite and so is everyone who supports her.
 

Separating art from artists works when the artist is long since dead, she is still alive and a plague on trans people’s rights. She’s very much the catalyst for even the conversation around restrooms in the UK in general. 

And as a person who has a best friend who is trans and sees how it affects her life daily, she can’t go to a bathroom or changing room in peace, she has slurs hurled at her in public and asked grotesque questions by strangers, so sincerely — eat my f*cking sh*t 

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20 hours ago, JohnnyVersace said:

HP holds a very special place in my childhood heart - went to the midnight book releases, screenings, etc. If this had looked in any way unique, fresh, or different I might have overlooked her BS and tried to watch. But it literally looks like the 2001 movie - the color tones, set, costuming, everything. I don't understand the point of making a drawn out series that is just a re-do of the 2000's movies with the only difference being that Snape is black.

 

The concept of “if this make believe cash grab actually looked nicer I would’ve overlooked transphobia and stripping people of their dignity”