Controversiaga 16,308 Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bronco said: You literally responded to someone saying the poll was proof that Gaga albums are getting worse (and then edited the post lol) Yes because the poll literally showed THOSE albums having the most votes ? I can’t make this sht up lol no one here is being forced to choose any specific answer, everyone is voting out of their own free will.. and I edited the post to add to my comment , not backtrack or take anything out ? Edited 1 hour ago by Controversiaga Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Blues 399 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, fashii0n said: RedOne, Garibay and Space Cowboy gave her music this really specific "Gaga" sound, campy, dark, dramatic, slightly gothic, but still very pop. It’s hard to describe, but Monster and Scheiße are good examples of what I mean. For an artist, standing still is the death sentence. Some kind of independence is also important for an artist - that's why she had to free herself from RedOne, for example. The music sounded like a bitter pill coated in sugar - very special. This zeitgeist is over. She sold since 2013 nearly 70 million records, so she is doing something right and she has not disappeared anywhere, she needed evolution. She won Grammys and is respected, a real artist. I love her evolution from TF to TFM to BTW to ARTPOP to Joanne to Chromatica to Mayhem (and Jazz stuff + ASIB) MAYHEM sounds very qualitative and has character...she is doing the right steps. Her career is a perfect mix of creditability and mass appealing, she moves somewhere in the middle with jagged curves and she does it very cleverly. I also liked 2009 and Bad Romance, but for now i like to hear Chromatica and MAYHEM much more. I think there's a lot of nostalgia in the air when you think about the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 16,308 Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Cherry Blues said: For an artist, standing still is the death sentence. Some kind of independence is also important for an artist - that's why she had to free herself from RedOne, for example. The music sounded like a bitter pill coated in sugar - very special. This zeitgeist is over. She sold since 2013 nearly 70 million records, so she is doing something right and she has not disappeared anywhere, she needed evolution. She won Grammys and is respected, a real artist. I love her evolution from TF to TFM to BTW to ARTPOP to Joanne to Chromatica to Mayhem (and Jazz stuff + ASIB) MAYHEM sounds very qualitative and has character...she is doing the right steps. Her career is a perfect mix of creditability and mass appealing, she moves somewhere in the middle with jagged curves and she does it very cleverly. I also liked 2009 and Bad Romance, but for now i like to hear Chromatica and MAYHEM much more. I think there's a lot of nostalgia in the air when you think about the past. I feel like Lana and Taylor have stood still for their last 5 albums or so and it seems to not have been a death sentence for them so much. but that being said, I am glad Gaga does evolve and try out new things. I just would like to see her be more daring and experimental. When she does try new things, the final product itself feels rather safe for the most part and doesn’t retain the classic GAGA soul Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 16,308 Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago @loveandpeace Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveandpeace 1,795 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Controversiaga said: @loveandpeace I'm not trying to be controversiaGa or anything. I even have a thread planned about how much I dislike “Bad Romance” ... too lazy for that right now. Honestly, I'm just tired of pretending I like The Fame Monster. Every time songs like “Bad Romance,” “Speechless,” or “Dance in the Dark” come up on my playlist, it's genuinely painful to listen to them all the way through... And on top of that, it's her shortest album... it's my opinion just smile :) ♡🦋⬇️ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Blues 399 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Controversiaga said: I feel like Lana and Taylor have stood still for their last 5 albums or so and it seems to not have been a death sentence for them so much. but that being said, I am glad Gaga does evolve and try out new things. I just would like to see her be more daring and experimental. When she does try new things, the final product itself feels rather safe for the most part and doesn’t retain the classic GAGA soul Mayhem brings the light feeling of The Fame and the dramatic dark side of The Fame Monster - that's the Lady/Gaga soul. At the same time it sounds more mature, that is artistic evolution. Personally, I would hear from her such an RnB-inspired album as with the track The Cure from 2017, that would be a direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 16,308 Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, loveandpeace said: I'm not trying to be controversiaGa or anything. I even have a thread planned about how much I dislike “Bad Romance” ... too lazy for that right now. Honestly, I'm just tired of pretending I like The Fame Monster. Every time songs like “Bad Romance,” “Speechless,” or “Dance in the Dark” come up on my playlist, it's genuinely painful to listen to them all the way through... And on top of that, it's her shortest album... it's my opinion Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 16,308 Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Cherry Blues said: Mayhem brings the light feeling of The Fame and the dramatic dark side of The Fame Monster - that's the Lady/Gaga soul. At the same time it sounds more mature, that is artistic evolution. Personally, I would hear from her such an RnB-inspired album as with the track The Cure from 2017, that would be a direction. OMG RnB YES BLESS UR SOUL FOR SAYING THAT i would love that. Even something that feels like second time around, quicksand, etc!!!!!! Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fashii0n 101 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Cherry Blues said: For an artist, standing still is the death sentence. Some kind of independence is also important for an artist - that's why she had to free herself from RedOne, for example. The music sounded like a bitter pill coated in sugar - very special. This zeitgeist is over. She sold since 2013 nearly 70 million records, so she is doing something right and she has not disappeared anywhere, she needed evolution. She won Grammys and is respected, a real artist. I love her evolution from TF to TFM to BTW to ARTPOP to Joanne to Chromatica to Mayhem (and Jazz stuff + ASIB) MAYHEM sounds very qualitative and has character...she is doing the right steps. Her career is a perfect mix of creditability and mass appealing, she moves somewhere in the middle with jagged curves and she does it very cleverly. I also liked 2009 and Bad Romance, but for now i like to hear Chromatica and MAYHEM much more. I think there's a lot of nostalgia in the air when you think about the past. I think Gaga tried to do way too much, way too fast. She could’ve ridden The Fame/The Fame Monster momentum a lot longer, but instead she completely switched the sound, look and persona with Born This Way almost immediately. People act like the backlash started with ARTPOP but tbh her oversaturation began in the BTW album , I don't think a lot of people liked a lot about BTW era, from the highly pro-LGBT messaging to the birth imagery. The backlash around Judas was huge, I also think she just changed her look too much. It was too much. Too ugly at times (the big black dot on her face) Edited 1 hour ago by fashii0n 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Blues 399 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Controversiaga said: OMG RnB YES BLESS UR SOUL FOR SAYING THAT i would love that. Even something that feels like second time around, quicksand, etc!!!!!! It would be a new field for an album - also with more experimental tracks. Partynauseous was also urban-inspired by rap. An untapped opportunity. Urban meets Techno. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imogen2133 575 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago The amount of ARTPOP hate in this thread smh, but it is okay me and the 5 other ARTPOP fans will be bopping along and recognizing its greatness 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imogen2133 575 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Controversiaga said: I guess I am delusional for still holding out hope that she’ll put out better music like she use to.. like I said, each of those last 3 albums has about 4 songs that I LOVE while the rest of the songs have had zero impact for me abracadabra was like the second coming of Jesus Christ for me! I love diamond heart, John Wayne, dancin and hey girl. Also love Alice 911 replay and engima, but the rest is too generic and basic lacking Gaga soul for me I can relate to this there are a few songs on Chromatica and Mayhem I can enjoy decently now and then but I haven't really enjoyed a full Gaga album start to finish since ARTPOP tbh. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 16,308 Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, fashii0n said: I think Gaga tried to do way too much, way too fast. She could’ve ridden The Fame/The Fame Monster momentum a lot longer, but instead she completely switched the sound, look and persona with Born This Way almost immediately. People act like the backlash started with ARTPOP but tbh her oversaturation began in the BTW album , I don't think a lot of people liked a lot about BTW era, from the highly pro-LGBT messaging to the birth imagery. The backlash around Judas was huge, I also think she just changed her look too much. It was too much. Too ugly at times (the big black dot on her face) Again you are right. BTW was the beginning of the downfall as it did take things in a very extreme direction that the GP was not ready for. And then ARTPOP was just a messy era all in all but people already felt their ways about gaga before ARTPOP dropped Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Blues 399 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, fashii0n said: I think Gaga tried to do way too much, way too fast. She could’ve ridden The Fame/The Fame Monster momentum a lot longer, but instead she completely switched the sound, look and persona with Born This Way almost immediately. People act like the backlash started with ARTPOP but tbh her oversaturation began in the BTW album , I don't think a lot of people liked a lot about BTW era, from the highly pro-LGBT messaging to the birth imagery. The backlash around Judas was huge, I also think she just changed her look too much. It was too much. Too ugly at times (the big black dot on her face) However, everything you describe was necessary for her to enter pop history as an artist pregnant with meaning. I liked this phase, it showed she has long-term plans. But the longer momentum would have prevented the depth of the path. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 16,308 Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, imogen2133 said: I can relate to this there are a few songs on Chromatica and Mayhem I can enjoy decently now and then but I haven't really enjoyed a full Gaga album start to finish since ARTPOP tbh. And it should be totally okay to admit this!!!! Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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