Gaga has become too safe.

[Mothermayhem 49]

8 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Not to mention the hooks are Taylor all the way down (“How bad, bad do u want me” followed by the stuttering vocal sample melody is straight off of Reputation, the “Oh oh, oh you love a good girl” hook feels straight off of 1989/Lover).

I doubt gaga was thinking about TS no shade and hbduwm sounds like more af a ally main + eh eh type of songs 

[Mothermayhem 49]

5 minutes ago, Chromanne said:

I wish Gaga read this entire thread and release Joanne Act II with the country pop lead single "F*ck Gagadaily" since calling out her parasocial fansite will be finally considered as an unsafe career choice. I bet Ajayll will definitely love it.

Does the fanbase really know what they mean by "experimental"? Seriously, even if she makes an experiment choice like making Disease a lead single, a song that sounded like nothing on the radio, half of this site still complained about it saying it's too loud and noisy. People here can't even tolerate songs like Killah and then they wish that Gaga was more "experimental". They like to overuse that word a lot, then give some random alternative acts as examples. If Gaga makes music like Bjork and Sophie, most of those people won't even listen to it.

They are people who are quickly disappointed when she doesn't dance in a music video or live performance. They want a 40 year old woman with fibromyalgia to dance and exhaust herself no matter what so that they can brag about the choreography on Twitter and tiktok.

And there are some people here who complain that she is not "controversial" enough so that she won't live in peace like in her early years. At this point, they don't really care about Stefani, they just want to brag that their fav is more edgy and sh*t to other parasocial pop girl stans.

Honestly I'd be more happy if she talks about Palestine, but for most people here it all comes down to Yaaas my fav has talked about Palestine, slay kween.

PLEASE END!

[fashii0n 82]

I feel like some of you think being a fan means you have to switch off all critical thinking and praise everything she does. If anything, knowing how insanely talented Gaga is makes me more demanding, not less. She’s clearly capable of doing genuinely incredible, ambitious music, which is exactly why it’s frustrating when she settles for something basic or predictable. The criticism comes from knowing how much more she’s capable of.

Another example is Bruno Mars, dude is insanely talented and makes the blandest music ever.

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,708]

4 minutes ago, Mothermayhem said:

I doubt gaga was thinking about TS no shade and hbduwm sounds like more af a ally main + eh eh type of songs 

Again, they have shared stylistic roots, but the construction is too obviously TS coded for me to write it off as accidental. She’s also clearly a fan, I’m pretty sure she posted a couple vids of her listening to TTPD when it came out. 

[Mothermayhem 49]

2 minutes ago, fashii0n said:

 

I feel like some of you think being a fan means you have to switch off all critical thinking and praise everything she does. If anything, knowing how insanely talented Gaga is makes me more demanding, not less. She’s clearly capable of doing genuinely incredible, ambitious music, which is exactly why it’s frustrating when she settles for something basic or predictable. The criticism comes from knowing how much more she’s capable of.

 

There is nothing to critique about her at the moment yall just sound insane atp because you say she’s predictable and we reply with how exactly killah or disease or mayhem requiem etc was predicable..? But then you dgaf and you stay forcing that narrative on people even when it’s factually incorrect and doesn’t make sense some of yall just learned 2 or 3 words like “experimental” and “risky” and just want to use them😂

[Bronco 25,553]

5 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Again, they have shared stylistic roots, but the construction is too obviously TS coded for me to write it off as accidental. She’s also clearly a fan, I’m pretty sure she posted a couple vids of her listening to TTPD when it came out. 

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Gaga wanting to return to this sound as a little nod to Taylor's role in spotlighting Applause with a new audience. 

But I do think you are over crediting Taylor by suggesting 1989 is a Taylor sound rather than a sound she took from others at the time. 

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,708]

3 minutes ago, Bronco said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Gaga wanting to return to this sound as a little nod to Taylor's role in spotlighting Applause with a new audience. 

But I do think you are over crediting Taylor by suggesting 1989 is a Taylor sound rather than a sound she took from others at the time. 

Again, I think Taylor synthesized a sound that others were doing at the time (CHVRCHES, HAIM, Lorde) in a very specific way that is pretty distinctly her recipe atp. I say that and I’m not even a fan lol

Edited 8 hours ago by Ladle Ghoulash

[Bronco 25,553]

Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Again, I think Taylor synthesized a sound that others were doing at the time (CHVRCHES, HAIM, Lorde) in a very specific way that is pretty distinctly her recipe atp. I say that and I’m not even a fan lol

There's honestly nothing distinct or unique about anything Taylor has ever done. 

And I say this as a fan who is still embarrassed how much they spent on an Eras tour ticket 😅😅😅

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,708]

@Mothermayhem I’ve been nothing but respectful in this conversation, so not really sure what the LMAO is about. I get that I out argued you and you have nothing else to say to defend your position, but at least own that lmao

[fashii0n 82]

2 minutes ago, Mothermayhem said:

There is nothing to critique about her at the moment yall just sound insane atp because you say she’s predictable and we reply with how exactly killah or disease or mayhem requiem etc was predicable..? But then you dgaf and you stay forcing that narrative on people even when it’s factually incorrect and doesn’t make sense some of yall just learned 2 or 3 words like “experimental” and “risky” and just want to use them😂

Dude, I don’t care whether music is “risky” or “experimental.” It’s not what I look for when I listen to music. I listen to something because I actually enjoy how it sounds. I didn’t like Mayhem or Chromatica outside of maybe two or three songs, and I’m pretty sure I only listened to Mayhem all the way through once when it came out.

The real question is why. I still regularly go back to her first three albums, but almost everything she released after Born This Way feels pretty disposable to me. Those records already contain the strongest version of what made Gaga interesting in the first place. As far as I’m concerned, she could’ve stopped after Born This Way and her musical legacy wouldn’t be missing much.

 

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,708]

2 minutes ago, Bronco said:

There's honestly nothing distinct or unique about anything Taylor has ever done. 

And I say this as a fan who is still embarrassed how much they spent on an Eras tour ticket 😅😅😅

Again, saying that she synthesized a version of synth pop that has become recognizable as her trademark style isn’t me saying it’s unique, it’s just saying that it’s recognizable as her her take on it. I’m not claiming she’s an innovator, but I’d say it’s pretty clear that she popularized and synthesized a recognizable format of confessional teeny-boppy 80s synth pop that I think Gaga was clearly referencing on HBDUWM.

Edited 8 hours ago by Ladle Ghoulash

[Mothermayhem 49]

1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

@Mothermayhem I’ve been nothing but respectful in this conversation, so not really sure what the LMAO is about. I get that I out argued you and you have nothing else to say to defend your position, but at least own that lmao

Yall so sensitive in this site IJBOL I only reacted lmao because I remember gaga posting that ttdp lyrics 

 

overall Irdc about hbduwm discourse because if anything it proves how gaga could easily do Taylor but TS could never do gaga. Also if HBDUWM was released by Taylor it would have been considered a timeless pop classic but for gaga it’s considered a low..🤣

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,708]

Just now, Mothermayhem said:

Yall so sensitive

Coming from someone who has done nothing but crash out across this entire thread, I have to laugh 

I wasn’t offended so much as calling you out for coming across like a douchebag, btw 

[Bronco 25,553]

2 minutes ago, Mothermayhem said:

Yall so sensitive in this site

You've spent your short time in here fighting everyone for upsetting you

Sit this one out

[Pink Eye 4,500]

2 minutes ago, Mothermayhem said:

Yall so sensitive in this site IJBOL I only reacted lmao because I remember gaga posting that ttdp lyrics 

 

overall Irdc about hbduwm discourse because if anything it proves how gaga could easily do Taylor but TS could never do gaga. Also if HBDUWM was released by Taylor it would have been considered a timeless pop classic but for gaga it’s considered a low..🤣

See, you're coming from a pop hierarchy stan injected mentality while people are just plainly describing things they hear and similarities they find. I hate Taylor's music with all my heart and I like HBDYWM and I can say it's Taylor coded and I hear Taylor clearly without my assh*le popping entirely out of my ass.