whoopdeedoo 71 Posted Sunday at 07:11 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:11 AM 7 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: That became the definition after I pressed post. My last name is Merriam-Webster Oxford. Oh okay. zoowalalalalalaaaaaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimotheeChalamet 6,896 Posted Sunday at 08:32 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:32 AM I remember like 3 years ago, on Italian Xfactor, they tried to make one of the finalists' single super viral by making it *1 minute and 58 seconds* It was embarrassing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onTheBrink 731 Posted Sunday at 09:59 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:59 AM 2 hours ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: That became the definition after I pressed post. My last name is Merriam-Webster Oxford. Roughhouse Dandy Merriam-Webster Oxford 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 1,472 Posted Sunday at 10:02 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:02 AM Because the industry is heavily saturated and polluted with meme music that serves no purpose other than to be laughed at or played unironically that the songs are shorter to accommodate the fact that nobody is actually gonna subject themselves to 5 minutes of that nonsense. Just my opinion though. The artists I listen to are mostly releasing full length songs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcal24 63 Posted Sunday at 10:08 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:08 AM I don't like the chipmunk trend that TikTok brought us either. It's fine when people do it for artistic purposes (While I Was Playin' Fair by Gramatik is a great example) but please don't destroy my song to fit it in your video. Not everything has to be a trend. Another example of a song being 2+ minutes long but not appetizing to me at least is Tears. I love that song and I wish there was an extended cut somewhere because it feels like she is rushing to get to the chorus and the verse and so on. I do play the scheisse out of it to enjoy it more so i guess that's the goal? Do start making 4 minute tracks, artists. Not everyone is on TikTok and I'm glad 'I Feel So Free' is 5 minutes long. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,363 Posted Sunday at 11:19 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:19 AM 1 hour ago, onTheBrink said: Roughhouse Dandy Merriam-Webster Oxford Pls no pictures today. I'm just a regular gorl This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 1,950 Posted Sunday at 04:29 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:29 PM On 6/13/2026 at 5:56 AM, Helxig said: Music labels don't care about art they care about is what the data says, and money. The answer is always what makes the most money. Always Also they are pushing this mindset HARD onto the artists. A fewof them have spoken out about how labels won't let them make longer songs, the labels tell them it needs to become a TikTok trend within a certain time frame, it needs x amount of traction by a certain date or they won't bother promoting it. It's all ****ed tbh 14 hours ago, Starmie25 said: 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 15,446 Posted Sunday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:51 PM 16 hours ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: A pop song shorter than 3 minutes isn't a song. It's an interlude. Bring back song making. I hated when short songs started to become a trend and I didn't know whether to class a 2.19 song as a song or interlude when reviewing albums because I don't count interludes in my ranking and I generally think it's an interlude if it's less than 2.30. Now I consider it a song without a second thought. How times have changed. XXXTentacion changed what we considered "songs" and "albums." A typical song from him was around 1.50 or so and his first "album" was just under 22 minutes. When I see that get called an album and then see 34-minute TFM still be referred to as an EP or even worse, a re-release, I want to scream. 17 hours ago, Junko Enoshima said: All 8 minute-long songs I’ve listened to were all excellent and truly an experience, but I can’t say the same for -3:30 songs. The only issue is, I can lose my way with long songs and forget what came before. I've heard lots of nice songs that are super long but struggle to remember how they all sound unless I actually listen to them. And you have to be in the right situation to listen to really long songs too. Shorter songs fit into a neat timeframe, long songs are good as part of a playlist while doing something else during a long afternoon but to sit down and listen to an 8 minute song, that's tough. I'm a bit ADHD, so my mind wanders. There are plenty of really good short songs but they have to been made with the right intention. Sometimes, a song is short because that's what it was meant to be. When a song is engineered to be short for whatever reason, it's nowhere near as good. 8 hours ago, alexcal24 said: I don't like the chipmunk trend that TikTok brought us either. It's fine when people do it for artistic purposes (While I Was Playin' Fair by Gramatik is a great example) but please don't destroy my song to fit it in your video. Not everything has to be a trend. Same. Especially when it doesn't suit the artist's voice or style. When artists release multiple versions of a viral song on their YouTube (sped up version, slowed down version, karaoke version), it's so cringe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 171,893 Posted Sunday at 08:01 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:01 PM On 6/13/2026 at 3:01 AM, Starmie25 said: Funny enough, many songs from 50s-60s were very short. Just to get it on a vinyl. Another reason why Dangerous is my favorite MJ album. 14 songs, about 80 minutes long. He was allowed to really cook with the production 'cause CDs allowed so much more music to be put on a record. Though, the way he still had to chop minutes off of each track that ended up being 6 to 7 minutes anyway We need more 7+ minute songs Whimsical bitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 171,893 Posted Sunday at 08:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:07 PM On 6/13/2026 at 11:07 AM, Ladle Ghoulash said: Comes and goes so quickly without a single impression being made. Oh Sour Candy, the permanent sonic and compositional liminality you are! I love the way she described ARTPOP (the song). "All foreplay, no climax". Arguably, there is a climax but it really does feel like the song just kinda ebbs and flows between higher and lower energy states but constantly pulses along. If ARTPOP is foreplay, Sour Candy is falling asleep 4 minutes into a hand job you paid a crack head behind the Home Depot for and then you wake up and find everything missing. Whimsical bitch 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 66,326 Posted Sunday at 08:08 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:08 PM (edited) 1 minute ago, PartySick said: I love the way she described ARTPOP (the song). "All foreplay, no climax". Arguably, there is a climax but it really does feel like the song just kinda ebbs and flows between higher and lower energy states but constantly pulses along. If ARTPOP is foreplay, Sour Candy is falling asleep 4 minutes into a hand job you paid a crack head behind the Home Depot for and then you wake up and find everything missing. Sour Candy came on in the gay bar last night, which I only know about because I drunkenly sent a friend a voice note of me singing to it The only situation that I would listen to it... Edited Sunday at 08:09 PM by dynamite Like a poem said by a neydy in red 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DESTROY UR DISEASE 19,113 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago because: shorter song = can be played more times in the same amount of time = more streams = more money I can smell your sickness I can... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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