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- she is the only Queen Of Pop

- her tours are the best

- Get Together it's her best song

- Rebel Heart is very underrated 

- Who's That Girl Tour is her best tour

- Ray Of Light is good, but a little bit overrated 

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Ladle Ghoulash

COADF is good, but overrated 

Music is top tier, so is AL

Probably not especially controversial, but I’d say Drowned World, Confessions, and Blond Ambition are her Holy Trinity of tours

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Sepsami

- She's pretentious AF but that's somehow part of her appeal

- the music is overall genuinely great

- her 'artistry' is overrated

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River

She's a queen without a kingdom, calling her queen of pop in 2026 is not only childish, but it's as equal as to call  Gaga the meat dress singer, what she did in the 80s and 90s is indeed remarkable, but since then many new people reshaped pop music and made a bigger impact even greater than hers. 

Madame X will always be a bad album, no matter how many times people throws the words "experimental" "underrated" "you don't understand Mirwais" and try to convince themselves and others that it's a good album, it's simply not.

Isaac is a beautiful song, one of the peaks in her career, the haters are very particular people and hates it for one obvious reason.

Music album is underrated.

Doesn't Really Matter is not a good song.

She doesn't have good ballads.

Don't Cry For Me Juanita is meh.

Like A Virgin, Holiday and Material Girl didn't age well and they need a remastered version so badly.

Her artistry never really evolved, she's been doing the same thing over and over. the religion thing is not shocking anymore, the sex is boring, the dance moves are the same.

So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy
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KNJ
11 minutes ago, River said:

She's a queen without a kingdom, calling her queen of pop in 2026 is not only childish, but it's as equal as to call  Gaga the meat dress singer, what she did in the 80s and 90s is indeed remarkable, but since then many new people reshaped pop music and made a bigger impact even greater than hers. 

 

Can't believe I'm out here defending this bitch but here goes...I don't think I'd say many ppl have left an impact as big as her. I'd say Gaga and Beyonce are definitely on par with her successs. I guess she's still considered the "queen" bc a) her DNA is in every pop girlie since she the 80s incl. Gaga and Bey and their descendants and b) she's still alive and working :shrug:

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Bronco
9 minutes ago, KNJ said:

Can't believe I'm out here defending this bitch but here goes...I don't think I'd say many ppl have left an impact as big as her. I'd say Gaga and Beyonce are definitely on par with her successs. I guess she's still considered the "queen" bc a) her DNA is in every pop girlie since she the 80s incl. Gaga and Bey and their descendants and b) she's still alive and working :shrug:

I'd also add - how many pop acts from her era can still pull full arena tours? Shut down times square? Or get over a million on a beach in rio? 

Cher is probably the only pop name older than her who can. And I don't think any other name from the 80s has the same global pull as her. Even Kylie is playing in smaller venues when she does Latin AM shows when Madonna was doing stadiums. 

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13 minutes ago, KNJ said:

Can't believe I'm out here defending this bitch but here goes...I don't think I'd say many ppl have left an impact as big as her. I'd say Gaga and Beyonce are definitely on par with her successs. I guess she's still considered the "queen" bc a) her DNA is in every pop girlie since she the 80s incl. Gaga and Bey and their descendants and b) she's still alive and working :shrug:

Like I said, she left a remarkable impact, but at the 80s-90s, it's around 44 years ago, so in 44 years, pop music had the time to evolve past Madonna.. of course many singers, including Gaga, sees her as an influence, but there it ends.

I think Gaga has more MJ and Freddie than actually Madonna, especially with her music videos and her live performances.

But I'm not saying she's bad or whatever, I've been a fan since I know myself, I just realized through the years that the "queen" title is irrelevant.

So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy
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Ladle Ghoulash
54 minutes ago, River said:

She doesn't have good ballads.

Oh Father? X Static Process? Live to Tell?

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Ladle Ghoulash
55 minutes ago, River said:

Her artistry never really evolved, she's been doing the same thing over and over.

Like A Prayer, Music, ROL, and AL are *vastly* different not only from each other, but from her output in the 80s

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Lucas
57 minutes ago, River said:

She's a queen without a kingdom, calling her queen of pop in 2026 is not only childish, but it's as equal as to call  Gaga the meat dress singer, what she did in the 80s and 90s is indeed remarkable, but since then many new people reshaped pop music and made a bigger impact even greater than hers. 

Madame X will always be a bad album, no matter how many times people throws the words "experimental" "underrated" "you don't understand Mirwais" and try to convince themselves and others that it's a good album, it's simply not.

Doesn't Really Matter is not a good song.

She doesn't have good ballads.

Her artistry never really evolved, she's been doing the same thing over and over. the religion thing is not shocking anymore, the sex is boring, the dance moves are the same.

Unpopular AND wrong :sweat:

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SimonBaetens

American Life is her best album

when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens
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River
8 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Oh Father? X Static Process? Live to Tell?

was not really a fan, but I'm not a big fan of ballads in general

7 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Like A Prayer, Music, ROL, and AL are *vastly* different not only from each other, but from her output in the 80s

I was not thinking in music-wise, but more about visuals-wise.

Like there's always something with a cross in her concerts.. in the 80s, 90s, it would shock, it would make the Vatican go insane.. but in the 2020s? it's like yeah ok we already saw that. bless jesus I guess.

So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy
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River
7 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Unpopular AND wrong :sweat:

Even if I'm wrong, I'm still right, because I'm always right :Cautious:

So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy
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Omegahedron

-  I seem to be in a minority that is not very impressed by the Confessions II so far.

- Drowned World / Substitute for Love is under the radar as her best song ever.

- There's a contradiction of her stated desire to be an older woman in possession of her own sexuality, whilst simultaneously trying to appear as young as she possibly can.

- Die Another Day is one of the worst Bond Themes ever (but had a good base theme and structure ... had it gone for more classical instrumentation and vocals, keeping the same overall melody it would have been a much better song)

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Lucas
10 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Like A Prayer, Music, ROL, and AL are *vastly* different not only from each other, but from her output in the 80s

Honestly you can add True Blue, Erotica, Bedtime Stories and COAD. Even Hard Candy and MDNA, although they're not good albums, are so different from everything she ever released idk

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