Blackout19 15,237 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Me: - she is the only Queen Of Pop - her tours are the best - Get Together it's her best song - Rebel Heart is very underrated - Who's That Girl Tour is her best tour - Ray Of Light is good, but a little bit overrated i am a free woman. ○● Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 48,565 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago COADF is good, but overrated Music is top tier, so is AL Probably not especially controversial, but I’d say Drowned World, Confessions, and Blond Ambition are her Holy Trinity of tours We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 20,579 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago - She's pretentious AF but that's somehow part of her appeal - the music is overall genuinely great - her 'artistry' is overrated Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 125,870 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago She's a queen without a kingdom, calling her queen of pop in 2026 is not only childish, but it's as equal as to call Gaga the meat dress singer, what she did in the 80s and 90s is indeed remarkable, but since then many new people reshaped pop music and made a bigger impact even greater than hers. Madame X will always be a bad album, no matter how many times people throws the words "experimental" "underrated" "you don't understand Mirwais" and try to convince themselves and others that it's a good album, it's simply not. Isaac is a beautiful song, one of the peaks in her career, the haters are very particular people and hates it for one obvious reason. Music album is underrated. Doesn't Really Matter is not a good song. She doesn't have good ballads. Don't Cry For Me Juanita is meh. Like A Virgin, Holiday and Material Girl didn't age well and they need a remastered version so badly. Her artistry never really evolved, she's been doing the same thing over and over. the religion thing is not shocking anymore, the sex is boring, the dance moves are the same. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNJ 4,307 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, River said: She's a queen without a kingdom, calling her queen of pop in 2026 is not only childish, but it's as equal as to call Gaga the meat dress singer, what she did in the 80s and 90s is indeed remarkable, but since then many new people reshaped pop music and made a bigger impact even greater than hers. Can't believe I'm out here defending this bitch but here goes...I don't think I'd say many ppl have left an impact as big as her. I'd say Gaga and Beyonce are definitely on par with her successs. I guess she's still considered the "queen" bc a) her DNA is in every pop girlie since she the 80s incl. Gaga and Bey and their descendants and b) she's still alive and working "She's an intellectual, your honor" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 22,821 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, KNJ said: Can't believe I'm out here defending this bitch but here goes...I don't think I'd say many ppl have left an impact as big as her. I'd say Gaga and Beyonce are definitely on par with her successs. I guess she's still considered the "queen" bc a) her DNA is in every pop girlie since she the 80s incl. Gaga and Bey and their descendants and b) she's still alive and working I'd also add - how many pop acts from her era can still pull full arena tours? Shut down times square? Or get over a million on a beach in rio? Cher is probably the only pop name older than her who can. And I don't think any other name from the 80s has the same global pull as her. Even Kylie is playing in smaller venues when she does Latin AM shows when Madonna was doing stadiums. The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 125,870 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, KNJ said: Can't believe I'm out here defending this bitch but here goes...I don't think I'd say many ppl have left an impact as big as her. I'd say Gaga and Beyonce are definitely on par with her successs. I guess she's still considered the "queen" bc a) her DNA is in every pop girlie since she the 80s incl. Gaga and Bey and their descendants and b) she's still alive and working Like I said, she left a remarkable impact, but at the 80s-90s, it's around 44 years ago, so in 44 years, pop music had the time to evolve past Madonna.. of course many singers, including Gaga, sees her as an influence, but there it ends. I think Gaga has more MJ and Freddie than actually Madonna, especially with her music videos and her live performances. But I'm not saying she's bad or whatever, I've been a fan since I know myself, I just realized through the years that the "queen" title is irrelevant. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 48,565 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 54 minutes ago, River said: She doesn't have good ballads. Oh Father? X Static Process? Live to Tell? We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 48,565 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 55 minutes ago, River said: Her artistry never really evolved, she's been doing the same thing over and over. Like A Prayer, Music, ROL, and AL are *vastly* different not only from each other, but from her output in the 80s We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 30,599 Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 57 minutes ago, River said: She's a queen without a kingdom, calling her queen of pop in 2026 is not only childish, but it's as equal as to call Gaga the meat dress singer, what she did in the 80s and 90s is indeed remarkable, but since then many new people reshaped pop music and made a bigger impact even greater than hers. Madame X will always be a bad album, no matter how many times people throws the words "experimental" "underrated" "you don't understand Mirwais" and try to convince themselves and others that it's a good album, it's simply not. Doesn't Really Matter is not a good song. She doesn't have good ballads. Her artistry never really evolved, she's been doing the same thing over and over. the religion thing is not shocking anymore, the sex is boring, the dance moves are the same. Unpopular AND wrong 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBaetens 9,369 Posted 58 minutes ago Share Posted 58 minutes ago American Life is her best album when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 125,870 Posted 52 minutes ago Share Posted 52 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Oh Father? X Static Process? Live to Tell? was not really a fan, but I'm not a big fan of ballads in general 7 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Like A Prayer, Music, ROL, and AL are *vastly* different not only from each other, but from her output in the 80s I was not thinking in music-wise, but more about visuals-wise. Like there's always something with a cross in her concerts.. in the 80s, 90s, it would shock, it would make the Vatican go insane.. but in the 2020s? it's like yeah ok we already saw that. bless jesus I guess. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 125,870 Posted 50 minutes ago Share Posted 50 minutes ago 7 minutes ago, Lucas said: Unpopular AND wrong Even if I'm wrong, I'm still right, because I'm always right So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegahedron 314 Posted 50 minutes ago Share Posted 50 minutes ago - I seem to be in a minority that is not very impressed by the Confessions II so far. - Drowned World / Substitute for Love is under the radar as her best song ever. - There's a contradiction of her stated desire to be an older woman in possession of her own sexuality, whilst simultaneously trying to appear as young as she possibly can. - Die Another Day is one of the worst Bond Themes ever (but had a good base theme and structure ... had it gone for more classical instrumentation and vocals, keeping the same overall melody it would have been a much better song) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 30,599 Posted 49 minutes ago Share Posted 49 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Like A Prayer, Music, ROL, and AL are *vastly* different not only from each other, but from her output in the 80s Honestly you can add True Blue, Erotica, Bedtime Stories and COAD. Even Hard Candy and MDNA, although they're not good albums, are so different from everything she ever released idk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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