imogen2133 430 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) So when Gaga talked about Mayhem during interviews she framed it as being about a series of gothic dreams and about being a long wild night represented through each song, like here: "‘Garden of Eden’ is a song about the temptation of being in the club and all the bad decisions you’re seduced into making. It’s kind of like Level 3 after ‘Disease’ and ‘Abracadabra’ right before we get to ‘Perfect Celebrity’ on the album when the night starts to turn a little bit." I understand the individual meanings of the songs on the album but I don't see how the songs fit into this framing or as an overall arc from start to end. I think Disease and Abra make sense as being about inner turmoil and your inner voice trying to get to you and then Abra being about getting through that and being resilient and Gaga being tested by the Mistress but I don't see how GOE continues that or how they all fit into the gothic dreams/long night party framing like I said. Also the love songs after GOE like LoveDrug, The Beast, Vanish Into You and DWAS seem more like they talk about a deep, dedicated and long term relationship where as GOE and HBDYWM seem more youthful and surface level which further complicates this framing. I also don't see how PC continues the narrative or idea of GOE either. If someone who understands better could explain that would be great Edited June 3 by imogen2133 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimecia 6,728 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 This again? You know how I feel about MAYHEM, and you know I take every opportunity to criticize this album and its lack of substance, but I think it's time to move on. Time. It will not wait, no matter how hard you hold on... 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emigrante 9,991 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 minute ago, Ultimecia said: This again? You know how I feel about MAYHEM, and you know I take every opportunity to criticize this album and its lack of substance, but I think it's time to move on. Electric chair Sugar, spice, and everything nice. 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 48,884 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 7 minutes ago, Ultimecia said: This again? MTE lmao We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 15,279 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I don’t think there’s a meaning the album is just a compilation of songs she’s created over the last however many years and they decided to call it mayhem since there is no cohesion amongst these songs Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 31,340 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 There’s no meaning, they just recorded many songs and chose to keep the ones they liked the most 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 31,340 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 It’s essentially her feelings and perspective of the time 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marivbst 89 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 16 minutes ago, Ultimecia said: This again? You know how I feel about MAYHEM, and you know I take every opportunity to criticize this album and its lack of substance, but I think it's time to move on. I can't believe I wasn't the first one to ragebait and get attention 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic 398 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 30 minutes ago, Ultimecia said: This again? You know how I feel about MAYHEM, and you know I take every opportunity to criticize this album and its lack of substance, but I think it's time to move on. Immediately thought of you…and I still agree. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 48,884 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 minute ago, chronic said: Immediately thought of you…and I still agree. Idk aren’t you usually the first to argue that “nothing’s ever that deep,” so what would be your gripe with hypothetical lack of substance? We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic 398 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: Idk aren’t you usually the first to argue that “nothing’s ever that deep,” so what would be your gripe with hypothetical lack of substance? What are you talking about? Are you still upset that I said you were overthinking the mistress of mayhem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 48,884 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) 2 minutes ago, chronic said: What are you talking about? Are you still upset that I said you were overthinking the mistress of mayhem? Nah, just observing that you tend to say that any time anyone has a discussion deeper than surface level about music/performance lol Edited June 3 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic 398 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Nah, just observing that you tend to say that any time anyone has a discussion deeper than surface level about music/performance lol No I don’t. You’re talking about 1 (one) instance that you didn’t like. You’re free to interpret a performance any way you’d like. I personally believe it wasn’t intentionally written in the complex way you interpreted it, and I said so in a respectful way. If anything, my thoughts on the album’s lack of substance line up with my belief that the tour also did not have this long thought-out plot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic 398 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 15 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Idk aren’t you usually the first to argue that “nothing’s ever that deep,” so what would be your gripe with hypothetical lack of substance? This doesn’t even make sense. The album isn't that deep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven 6,519 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Mayhem has no meaning, it's just a bunch of songs tied together. She probably came up with this narrative when promoting the album. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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