Better Song: Disturbia vs Disease

[ANVEEROY 64,334]

Choose the better one!

[NUTELLA 22,663]

3 minutes ago, ANVEEROY said:

Choose the better one!

🎶 So if you must falter, choose wisely 

[ANVEEROY 64,334]

2 minutes ago, NUTELLA said:

🎶 So if you must falter, choose wisely 

[Hadrian 1,761]

Disturbia is THAT GIRL. 

Disease is THAT BITCH. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Hadrian
capitalization for emphasis lololllllllll

[OMF 3,589]

Disease is not even in the same style or genre and it’s a gem, hard to find a song like that in any other artists catalogue 

[Anderson123 41,706]

[Battle 4 Ur Life 6,771]

Disease sounds sick

Disturbia sounds disturbing

[Blackout19 14,870]

disturbia 

[RenegAde 20,237]

I know yall lying voting decrease

[nATAH 54,980]

easily disease lol

[ALGAYDO 34,564]

DIsease? DIsturbia? DIewithasmile?

[Apec 114]

DISEASE BY ANY METRIC.

Sorry, I get how the backing dum-dum-die-dum-dum can make Disturbia most likely somewhat of a bop in a club, but Disease's sound is such a fusion of Alt rock, techno/electronica, industrial/NIN at its best and somehow still pop with hints of grunge and trance but SO unique and dark and still 100% Gaga. That's what true dark pop is, not edging into cosplaying darkness which is what Disturbia feels like for me (while I still have respect for it and can shoulder dance to the latter, don't get me wrong ). Some people were harping on the lyrics when Disease came out and I truly can't understand that: the being that sings one-two-three, that sings she'll be cured that night had to be her pain/disease taken shape singing to Gaga herself, the embodiment of her disease that wants the darkness to take over her target. That embodiment's almost seducing her victim with (capitulation, sui**** ideation might even be implied) saying it'd be so easy and quick, making what's worst for Gaga seem like the best option.

The video vindicated that, you saw the ways in which Gaga reacted to her own pain/diseases - almost seduced/docile (because who doesn't want a night without the pain/the poison), avoiding it, fighting herself, being afraid to her core, etc. The woman in black (she'll never be the Mistress to me because she represents something wholly different) has a red eye with a dark paintbrush stroke above it: represents migraine (for those who remember when Gaga began, she's been talking about having it for a long time and red carpets exacerbating it) because the eye and above on one side of the face are where the attacks start for most people, then her cane must be the pain she still feels from her broken hip and the nerve membrane that also tore at the same time and still haunts her, her claws and her whole body being covered: fibromyalgia - 1) hands are very common places for the pain to manifest even when it's somewhat better in other places on the body and 2) places like the entire back and shoulderblades are very common as well as the neck and forward-facing shoulders, legs,... which is why she covered everything but added the claws (many describe when the hands are worse as them feeling like oversized claws and weights). Even her (hopefully) past bulimia gets a nod. The two Gaga clones fighting to get to that bit of light while chained and trampling all over eachother was such a brilliant depiction of the hopeless feeling chronic pain brings with it, mercilessly.

That song and video are a MASTERPIECE. In just 4 minutes the video and its lyrics (and her singing, come on, her voice meeting the screams of the electric guitar at the end) give a hard look at what suffering 24/7 looks like. Something long-form cinema nor short films have ever been able to grapple with like she did here. A semi-straight quote from her underrated Rolling Stone article where we learn she isn't pain-free (ofc she isn't, she has fibro and will have better and worse moments ) and still takes meds: "I felt I needed to let the world hear and see how f#cking difficult this is, every second of it."

I admit I had a really hard time in the months before it released, I've been chronically ill/in severe constant pain since I was 19 (medical mistake caused an infection in several nerve branches) and I'd just turned 35, "celebrating" my eleventh year of being bedbound, not even able to sit upright anymore except for an extremely short while. As I've already said on here, my world is this bed, the room it's in, and the bathroom right next to it. Has been for quite a while. Getting out of bed is torture. I still try to do a lot of writing, some very light excercises, reading, etc., in said bed mostly, but this was never how I saw my life going of course. You have no idea what both the song and the video unlocked in me - a catharsis I've never even known I had in me. The 234th time watching/listening was the same. The next time will probably be as well.  I've read other LM's and even MANY non-fans (in YT comments, on reddit) feel the same.

The sound (which she was obviously co-producing and extra involved in like basically all of Mayhem but it must've been extra special on all levels for her to release something so incredibly risky as her first official single, just see that featurette where she was all alone in a studio dissecting it), the lyrics and the video came together and both actually helped people and showed the world what 4 minutes in the head of a person with chronic pain/chronic illness can look like, the ending making it very clear that her disease will go on 24/7. That's something nobody has really tried to do (trust me, I've looked) let alone someone of her reach.

If I had to compare it to Disturbia: it's a whole different beast!  Disturbia wants to shock (but not too much because it's still something you needed to want to dance to in the 00's music landscape it was made in). That's basically the most I can say... Disease, on the other hand, you can very much enjoy if you're healthy too, is a fusion of so many styles of music, a banger of the highest magnitude, and an important, innovative statement. Innovative because she looked inwards to make it, didn't feel the need to make it FEEL universal, yet that's why it IS. You didn't have to know who ARTPOP!Ga versus Chromatica!Ga were to feel what she was portraying, nor did she need to spell out that this was basically taking place in her mind. A living nightmare, shot mostly in daylight to make her point even more. We feel everything just as much on a sunny day. Our monsters don't hide under our bed at night, they're always there with us. They're the poison inside of us, maybe even created by our own bodies to sustain itself.

There's just no comparison imho. Rihanna made a still MTV friendly song/video (Disease would be censored to hell and back) with somewhat shocking imagery and lyrics long before Gaga made Disease. I wouldn't be able to say if she was very involved or mostly did vocals, I don't know how Rihanna worked on Disturbia - but the lyrics themselves didn't even seem to touch on dark (or maybe say intrusive) thoughts, which could've made things have more depth. But I think Disturbia was just a... place of corruption (?) if I remember correctly. Yet I've read a local news article last year about a talk group of chronically ill people actually discussing Disease the song/video and what emotions it made them feel (primarily positive ones, and primarily positive catharsis).

That's so incredible and so our Gaga.  For me personally, look at my very first line in this essay of an answer. Sorry for being so long-winded, folks. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Apec

[DESTROY UR DISEASE 17,649]

I love Disturbia so much

 

...

 

BUT

[Melbourne Monster 181]

1 hour ago, Apec said:

DISEASE BY ANY METRIC.

Sorry, I get how the backing dum-dum-die-dum-dum can make Disturbia somewhat of a bop in a club, but Disease's sound is such a fusion of Alt rock, techno/electronica, industrial/NIN at its best and somehow still pop but SO unique and dark. That's what true dark pop is, not edging into cosplaying darkness which is what Disturbia feels like for me (while I still have respect for it and can shoulder dance to the latter, don't get me wrong). Some people were harping on the lyrics when Disease came out and I truly can't understand that: the one-two-three that sings she'll be cured that night had to be her pain/disease taken shape singing to Gaga herself, the embodiment of her disease that wants the darkness to take over her target. That embodiment's almost seducing her victim with (capitulation, sui**** ideation might even be implied) saying it'd be so easy and quick, making what's worst for Gaga seem like the best option.

The video vindicated that, you saw the ways in which Gaga reacted to her own pain/diseases - almost seduced/docile (because who doesn't want a night without the pain/the poison), avoiding it, fighting herself, being afraid to her core, etc. The woman in black (she'll never be the Mistress to me because she represents something wholly different) has a red eye with a dark paintbrush stroke above it: migraine (for those who remember when Gaga began, she's been talking about having it for a long time and red carpets exacerbating it) because the eye and above on one side of the face are where the attacks start for most people, then her cane: the pain she still feels from her broken hip and the nerve membrane that also tore at the same time and still haunts her, her claws and her whole body being covered: fibromyalgia - hands are very common places for the pain to manifest even when it's somewhat better in other places on the body - like lower back and shoulderblades as well neck are typical which is why she covered everything and many describe when the hands are worse as them feeling like oversized claws and weights. Even her (hopefully) past bulimia gets a nod. The two Gaga clones fighting to get to that bit of light while chained and trampling all over eachother was such a brilliant depiction of the hopeless feeling chronic pain brings with it, mercilessly.

That song and video are a MASTERPIECE. In just 4 minutes the video and its lyrics (and her singing, come on, her voice meeting the screams of the electric guitar at the end) give a hard look at what suffering 24/7 looks like. Something long-form cinema nor short films have ever been able to grapple with like she did here. A semi-straight quote from her underrated Rolling Stone article where we learn she isn't pain-free (ofc she isn't, she has fibro and will have better and worse moments ) and still takes meds: "I felt I needed to let the world hear and see how f#cking difficult this is, every second of it."

I admit I had a really hard time in the months before it released, I've been chronically ill/in severe constant pain since I was 19 (medical mistake caused an infection in several nerve branches) and I'd just turned 35, "celebrating" my eleventh year of being bedbound, not even able to sit upright anymore except for an extremely short while. As I've already said on here, my world is this bed, the room it's in, and the bathroom right next to it. Has been for quite a while. Getting out of bed is torture. I still try to do a lot of writing, some very light excercises, reading, etc., in said bed mostly, but this was never how I saw my life going of course. You have no idea what both the song and the video unlocked in me - a catharsis I've never even known I had in me. The 234th time watching/listening was the same. The next time will probably be as well.  I've read other LM's and even MANY non-fans (in YT comments, on reddit) feel the same.

The sound (which she was obviously co-producing and extra involved in like basically all of Mayhem but it must've been extra special on all levels for her to release something so incredibly risky as her first official single, just see that featurette where she was all alone in a studio dissecting it), the lyrics and the video came together and both actually helped people and showed the world what 4 minutes in the head of a person with chronic pain/chronic illness can look like, the ending making it very clear that her disease will go on 24/7. That's something nobody has really tried to do (trust me, I've looked) let alone someone of her reach.

If I had to compare it to Disturbia: it's a whole different beast!  Disturbia wants to shock (but not too much because it's still something you needed to want to dance to in the 00's music landscape it was made in). That's basically the most I can say... Disease, on the other hand, you can very much enjoy if you're healthy too, is a fusion of so many styles of music, a banger of the highest magnitude, and an important, innovative statement. Innovative because she looked inwards to make it, didn't feel the need to make it FEEL universal, yet that's why it IS. You didn't have to know who ARTPOP!Ga versus Chromatica!Ga were to feel what she was portraying, nor did she need to spell out that this was basically taking place in her mind. A living nightmare, shot mostly in daylight to make her point even more. We feel everything just as much on a sunny day. Our monsters don't hide under our bed at night, they're always there with us. They're the poison inside of us, maybe even created by our own bodies to sustain itself.

There's just no comparison imho. Rihanna made a still MTV friendly song/video (Disease would be censored to hell and back) with somewhat shocking imagery and lyrics long before Gaga made Disease. I wouldn't be able to say if she was very involved or mostly did vocals, I don't know how Rihanna worked on Disturbia - but the lyrics themselves didn't even seem to touch on dark (or maybe say intrusive) thoughts, which could've made things have more depth. But I think Disturbia was just a... place of corruption (?) if I remember correctly. Yet I've read a local news article last year about a talk group of chronically ill people actually discussing Disease the song/video and what emotions it made them feel (primarily positive ones, and primarily positive catharsis).

That's so incredible and so our Gaga.  For me personally, look at my very first line in this essay of an answer. Sorry for being so long-winded, folks. 

Rihanna doesn’t have songwriting credits on Disturbia 

[Bronco 21,130]

The OG emo clubland crossover vs the elder emo resurrection. 

Don't make me pick