Tik Tok Hot Take On Runway

[Jawline4dayz 570]

I’m all for respecting people’s opinion but..…is this girl for real? 

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[Jawline4dayz 570]

Sorry I don’t know how to embed Tik Tok videos 

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NVM I DID IT!

[Arcanum 5,206]

Everyone is allowed to have their wrong opinion 

[G U C C I 5,565]

I actually agree with her. She makes a good point. The song is FINE as is, B U T with Gaga AND Doechi (and clearly a big budget given the video), the material should have been more than random gay buzz words strung together with repetitive nonsense that instantly makes you envision Drag Race. 

[Creyk 18,339]

1 hour ago, G U C C I said:

I actually agree with her. She makes a good point. The song is FINE as is, B U T with Gaga AND Doechi (and clearly a big budget given the video), the material should have been more than random gay buzz words strung together with repetitive nonsense that instantly makes you envision Drag Race. 

But that is what makes the song authentic. Remember, Doechi is a gay woman.

[Junko Enoshima 4,196]

She’s got a great point 

[PartySick 170,368]

It's so interesting.

When Gaga tries to be sincere and deep, the fans often push it aside unless it's dumbed down for them (like Chromatica).

And when she's just having a little fun (like Runway) suddenly they bust out the monocles and thesauruses to explain all the ways the song just isn't serious enough.

So much of gay culture is the whimsy of it all, that lighthearted creativity in the face of oppression, and a cute bop like Runway lends itself to that world just fine imo. It's a caricature in a world where caricatures are the highest form of compliment.

Naggy f-words and b-words annoy me when they expect her to reinvent the wheel when the prompt was "make a fun song with another queer artist for Devil Wears Prada 2".

Get over yourself, lady.

Gaga really catches criticism when she least deserves it.

[Starmie25 21,740]

3 hours ago, PartySick said:

When Gaga tries to be sincere and deep, the fans often push it aside unless it's dumbed down for them (like Chromatica).

Or Joanne album. 

[PartySick 170,368]

1 minute ago, Starmie25 said:

Or Joanne album. 

Joanne accomplished exactly what it was meant to. It was an album for her and about her. There's valid criticism to be had a decade later but as a project of its time, it was "fine" at worst, namely due to her choice of aesthetic (the cowgirl thing from the woman that grew up in Manhattan was unnecessary, even though I personally liked it).

If anything, the fact that fans still misrepresent what that album actually was ("omg she put a song about flicking the bean on the dead aunt album") shows why she made certain choices with the following album.

Chromatica was easily Gaga dumbing down what she really wanted to say, getting pressured by certain people in her circle, and slapping it over trendy house beats 'cause the fans showed they weren't here for authenticity unless the feelings were spelled out clearly and they could sniff poppers and get bent over in the club while it was blasting on the speakers.

 

 

I'm full of beans this morning so I'm being more aggressive than necessary but I stand by the opinion  

[Ladle Ghoulash 42,316]

1 hour ago, PartySick said:

Joanne accomplished exactly what it was meant to. It was an album for her and about her. There's valid criticism to be had a decade later but as a project of its time, it was "fine" at worst, namely due to her choice of aesthetic (the cowgirl thing from the woman that grew up in Manhattan was unnecessary, even though I personally liked it).

If anything, the fact that fans still misrepresent what that album actually was ("omg she put a song about flicking the bean on the dead aunt album") shows why she made certain choices with the following album.

Chromatica was easily Gaga dumbing down what she really wanted to say, getting pressured by certain people in her circle, and slapping it over trendy house beats 'cause the fans showed they weren't here for authenticity unless the feelings were spelled out clearly and they could sniff poppers and get bent over in the club while it was blasting on the speakers.

 

 

I'm full of beans this morning so I'm being more aggressive than necessary but I stand by the opinion  

Beans make you aggressive?? 
 

But fr: I see where you’re coming from, but I do think there was something kind of powerful (and I think genuinely liberating for her) about seeing an artist that is infamous for draping her experience in 5-6 layers of metaphor just laying out her feelings plainly in song. Maybe it’s too generous of an interpretation, but as an artist that tends to be a perfectionist, I do think there was real value for her in being able to show up in a flawed/less than perfect way (struggling deeply with her mental health, unsure she even wanted to continue working as Gaga/as a popstar, just pouring out plaintive pop). I don’t necessarily mind the simplicity or even the relative immaturity of the lyrics because it feels like the album gives voice to a younger version of herself that never got to show up in the public eye as “Lady Gaga” because she needed to put on her armor and show strength from the get-go. 
 

That being said, I agree that the Joanne hate is completely unwarranted. It’s a great album. It’s warm, deeply felt, thoughtful, and an album that will definitely withstand the stand of test of time. I also think, similar to Chromatica, it was a way of showing herself and the public that she could show up as something other than what many saw as a cold avant garde, hamfisted alien pop provocateur, and instead as someone that more people could see as warm + relatable. 

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[Ladle Ghoulash 42,316]

7 hours ago, G U C C I said:

I actually agree with her. She makes a good point. The song is FINE as is, B U T with Gaga AND Doechi (and clearly a big budget given the video), the material should have been more than random gay buzz words strung together with repetitive nonsense that instantly makes you envision Drag Race. 

Idk, I mean if you compare it to her previous submission for a fashion related film (Confessions of a Shopaholic), that song was basically just a bunch of cliches about being a mannequin and listing a bunch of designer brands lol. I think the song is basically on brief, but a lot of folks are reading it outside of context. 

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[Controversiaga 13,134]

6 hours ago, G U C C I said:

I actually agree with her. She makes a good point. The song is FINE as is, B U T with Gaga AND Doechi (and clearly a big budget given the video), the material should have been more than random gay buzz words strung together with repetitive nonsense that instantly makes you envision Drag Race. 

This.  It just feels so NOT organic and so forced trying to be cunty and slay and it feels cringe and cheesy 

[Killa 18,475]

I think its funny having Gaga giving US burning tea. 

And the production on runway Is vastly superior to shimmer and Also shimer isnt that bad lol. Why does Gaga Need to be Better

Anyways this Is was a demo from bruno Mars turned into a Song by Gaga and cirkut feat doechii, in the midst of a tour 

They are clearly doing other Song. Thus more to come. Gaga can overuse her Power and Release something cheap, because lets be real, nowadaya you Need keep pumping music to inflate your numbers.

So. Its a Better Song that any rupaul ive Heard, we get a bit of 90s diva vocals some cunty foolishness. The house music Is not a parody musically Sorry. I strongly disagree because the Song Is trash but Is well put together and the only of the three worth as single material. 

If i was Gaga i wouldn't waste previous material on this soundtrack. The movie comparisions and iris.. lol. 

[PartySick 170,368]

1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Beans make you aggressive?? 
 

But fr: I see where you’re coming from, but I do think there was something kind of powerful (and I think genuinely liberating for her) about seeing an artist that is infamous for draping her experience in 5-6 layers of metaphor just laying out her feelings plainly in song. Maybe it’s too generous of an interpretation, but as an artist that tends to be a perfectionist, I do think there was real value for her in being able to show up in a flawed/less than perfect way (struggling deeply with her mental health, unsure she even wanted to continue working as Gaga/as a popstar, just pouring out plaintive pop). I don’t necessarily mind the simplicity or even the relative immaturity of the lyrics because it feels like the album gives voice to a younger version of herself that never got to show up in the public eye as “Lady Gaga” because she needed to put on her armor and show strength from the get-go. 
 

That being said, I agree that the Joanne hate is completely unwarranted. It’s a great album. It’s warm, deeply felt, thoughtful, and an album that will definitely withstand the stand of test of time. I also think, similar to Chromatica, it was a way of showing herself and the public that she could show up as something other than what many saw as a cold avant garde, hamfisted alien pop provocateur, and instead as someone that more people could see as warm + relatable. 

I still view Chromatica negatively 'cause the project as whole falls flat for me. Bad production, her least "clever" writing, and her relenting on so much. It reeks of insecurity but not in a way that inspires, like on BTW and ARTPOP. More in the "Gaga took a back seat on this album" way. They wouldn't even let her put a ballad on the album  and sure, she has final say so it comes down to where she was at the time, I just...idk, I've had this same conversation a hundred times  it's just not an album that's up to her standards imo.

Joanne is simply her at her most sincere and I appreciate it for what it is and how deeply I relate to the themes conveyed and stories told.

And no, "full of beans" means I'm in a bad mood  boy drama, idk. I'm gonna be single forever for my own mental health.

[Lemon Blood 532]

I don’t think it’s that deep… it’s just supposed to be a fun camp song… calm down