UPDATE: Sabrina Carpenter APOLOGIZED

[River 123,667]

13 minutes ago, Kayi said:

Things that are criticizable about someone's culture is indeed if something in their culture allows to harm someone else.

We're talking about a traditional music. It's not even about liking it or not. I mean yeah you can like or dislike it as art (because it's human expression).

But you shouldn't say "it's weird" by respect (sounding good is not the first utility of this art, it's about cultural transmission), and even more when you're an artist. When you're an artist you are supposed to have more critical skills about art. But yeah, this coming from a pop artist that probably lacks of knowledge on things further than her field and white American cognitive biases is too much to ask... It's not a critical situation, but she should apologize for it. Cancelling her would be so absurd, we know that she is blatantly ignorant.

But it still, has a very bad connotation. Nazis used to call Jewish people's art "degenerate". And it was a way for them to deshumanize them. Because if you call it "weird" you imply that it lacks of humanity, familiarity in it. Nazis used to make whole expositions of "Degenerate arts" to humiliate Jews...

 

Don't you think that you're taking it too far honestly? 

Like I said in my post before, there are more urgent things to deal with right now.. this.. this whole thing, it's a Big Brother level of brainrot.

It shouldn't even be news, it shouldn't even waste your energy.

You gave 315 words over a noise, but 0 about 250 dead Lebanese

 

I have from an Iraqi-Jewish Israeli family and this sound is not only familiar to me, my mom always did it at parties, wedding, etc.

And I'm not offended by Sabrina.

It's an unusual sound.

 

And more than that, as an autistic person, I know how it is when a sound is disturbing, how irritating it can be and sometimes how lost you can be.

 

Like honestly, stop judging people, can u guys see beyond the "offending"?

[RAMROD 114,690]

SARINA APOLOGIZES

 

[dynamite 65,372]

1 minute ago, RAMROD said:

SARINA APOLOGIZES

 

Thank god, now I'll sleep tonight!  #serenacarpenter

[RAMROD 114,690]

2 minutes ago, dynamite said:

Thank god, now I'll sleep tonight!  #serenacarpenter

crisis averted

[Roughhouse Dandy 12,883]

15 minutes ago, River said:

eh if u want, I'm not in the mood but whatever, have fun 

I remember when shakira did it at the Superbowl and all the people who acts offended now, actually laughed about Shakira and were super racist about it. making fun with gifs and all.

As per usual, it's all about who is the celeb in the situation and not really about what u guys believe in, because every day u believe in something else lol

 

Like idk, people are f-cking dying and this thread has 4 pages about a f-cking noise, while a thread about the 250 Lebanese people who were killed by Israel has 1 page.... 

Well, I agree with all that. Fight canceled; everybody go home. 

[Bronco 19,358]

30 minutes ago, Kayi said:

We're talking about a traditional music. It's not even about liking it or not. I mean yeah you can like or dislike it as art (because it's human expression).

Do you think its appropriate to interrupt another perforer with your own traditional music though? That's what this comes down to.

Its no different to the people who turn up at gigs and sing loudly/shout/cheer etc and disturb others around them and sometimes even the artist (like in this instance). No one is there to see/hear you. 

 

[Kayi 2,986]

5 minutes ago, River said:

 

Don't you think that you're taking it too far honestly? 

Like I said in my post before, there are more urgent things to deal with right now.. this.. this whole thing, it's a Big Brother level of brainrot.

It shouldn't even be news, it shouldn't even waste your energy.

You gave 315 words over a noise, but 0 about 250 dead Lebanese

 

I have from an Iraqi-Jewish Israeli family and this sound is not only familiar to me, my mom always did it at parties, wedding, etc.

And I'm not offended by Sabrina.

It's an unusual sound.

 

And more than that, as an autistic person, I know how it is when a sound is disturbing, how irritating it can be and sometimes how lost you can be.

 

Like honestly, stop judging people, can u guys see beyond the "offending"?

I said that she shouldn't be cancelled because it's a small mistake, but we shouldn't normalizing mocking ppl's cultures. Especially in this fascist era of History.

I see more and more white supremacist bs impregnating the minds of normies. Especially with all the disgusting antisemitic and racists memes around weird esoteric beliefs such as hyperboreans... I mean I'm a Middle-Eastern too and I think there is more and more hatred toward our cultures and people.

I mean I generally don't care about stuffs like that, I get what you mean with the Big Brother comparison... Interacting with entertainment, is a distraction... But I'm pessimistic about the future of our motherlands.

I saw what happened in Liban... I hope that the left-wing of Isreal will take back the control. Trump, Mojtaba Khamenei and Netanyahu are trying to create a big war, it's terrible. Rip to all the victims of this conflict.

[Kayi 2,986]

2 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Do you think its appropriate to interrupt another perforer with your own traditional music though? That's what this comes down to.

Its no different to the people who turn up at gigs and sing loudly/shout/cheer etc and disturb others around them and sometimes even the artist (like in this instance). No one is there to see/hear you. 

 

That's true but the reaction of Sab wasn't appropriate too. Again I don't say "She's a racist !! She should be cancelled !". She's just ignorant. And the fan playing it's music, is not respectful toward the artist and the other fans.

It's like that time when someone threw something at Sabrina, and then she throwed it back on someone else. No one was injuried, but it's absurd on both side. Because it's not very self-aware of the conscequences.

[Ladle Ghoulash 39,871]

22 minutes ago, dynamite said:

Thank god, now I'll sleep tonight!  #serenacarpenter

I still refuse to stream Selena Carpenter’s music 

[LadyxGaGa 3,052]

YAY SHE APOLOGIZED !!! 

 

CANT WAIT FOR WEEKEND 2

[LadyxGaGa 3,052]

i was rly worried this was going to dampen what is a fun free and beautiful weekend but crisis has been averted 

[Bronco 19,358]

8 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I still refuse to stream Selena Carpenter’s music 

Sabrina Ironmonger is pretty good as an alternative artist. 

I'd avoid Serena Cha Cha's though

[nATAH 54,362]

nobody outside the pop forums/twitter is looking at this

[Ladle Ghoulash 39,871]

8 minutes ago, nATAH said:

nobody outside the pop forums/twitter is looking at this

Wdym? I was under the impression that pop stars were the cornerstone of geopolitics.

[Sneaky Oliver 22,787]

the twitter community is so over dramatic imagine calling someone uncultured because they don’t know what a zaghrouta is lol I mean I bet 90% of that crowd didn’t know it was and neither does most of these people posting about it 

no one is supposed to know everything about every culture around the globe to be seen as a “cultured” person