Erotica 34,925 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 We all know Trump is crazy/insane, what amazes me more is how everyone else just sit on their asses and let him behave and do whatever he wants. Leaders in normal functioning democracies have been removed from office for less... Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on the permission of another 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 25,117 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 15 minutes ago, Lord Mayhem said: Iran has made it clear earlier today tho that NO negotiations are taking place and they are not communicating with the US. So US is lying... Pakistan is TRYING to be an unofficial proxy mediator but doesnt mean Iran is entertaining it... If this all becomes a TACO moment...he will look like the biggest asshole on planet earth for threatening genocide in an attempt to manipulate Iran. Iranian people are protesting forming human chains...doesnt sound like they are backing down. Plus...b2 bombers are already in route so ALL options are still on the table. 1.5 hours... Trump just agreed to the ceasefire, just waiting on Iran now. The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 25,117 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 31 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: Eh, but remember that it's still Taco Tuesday. I give it an hour before he walks this all back. 30 minutes, you weren't far off. The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 25,117 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Trump claims the 2 week ceasefire will enable them to complete a full peace deal. Some dude called jacob is angry The gays know how to party 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasagna 3,402 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 iran won't agree to this surely? so does that mean that when they don't agree trump views it as carte blanche to nuke them...? does anyone with more political knowledge have any predictions for whats going to happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasagna 3,402 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) i feel like we're in exactly the same position given that little asterix on this ceasefire that its enacted if the strait is kept open Spoiler not that i even expect trump or israel to withhold the deals of a ceasefire anyway Edited April 7 by lasagna Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magui 2,654 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 22 minutes ago, Erotica said: We all know Trump is crazy/insane, what amazes me more is how everyone else just sit on their asses and let him behave and do whatever he wants. Leaders in normal functioning democracies have been removed from office for less... I can't even imagine a prime minister of my country saying or behaving like trump... It's literally insane how Americans endure such a president. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mayhem 3,428 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 11 minutes ago, Bronco said: Trump just agreed to the ceasefire, just waiting on Iran now. I dont know why Trump doesnt release a joint statement if true genuine and positive talks are taking place with Iran... Im not trying to be pessimistic but this administration has done nothing to instill any confidence in me and Iran has repeatedly said they will not accept a ceasefire...they want a permanent end to the attacks or nothing at all. Lets see how Iran responds because this back and forth is emotionally draining for the entire world... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 25,117 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, lasagna said: iran won't agree to this surely? so does that mean that when they don't agree trump views it as carte blanche to nuke them...? does anyone with more political knowledge have any predictions for whats going to happen Iran can claim the "win" here because Trump backed down. So they'll agree to it. They also don't have a choice.. The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 25,117 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, Lord Mayhem said: I dont know why Trump doesnt release a joint statement if true genuine and positive talks are taking place with Iran... Im not trying to be pessimistic but this administration has done nothing to instill any confidence in me and Iran has repeatedly said they will not accept a ceasefire...they want a permanent end to the attacks or nothing at all. Lets see how Iran responds because this back and forth is emotionally draining for the entire world... Itll be a bargaining tactic. He gets the long term win if the deal exists, but by backing down - Iran get a win now. The gays know how to party Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasagna 3,402 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bronco said: Iran can claim the "win" here because Trump backed down. So they'll agree to it. They also don't have a choice.. i just dont see a world in which israel in particular stops the ceasefire. so far iran have said no to trump on everything i cant imagine this would be that different, but i don't know Spoiler you always have the tea on politics tho so im gna trust you Edited April 7 by lasagna 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTV 13,913 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 are we dead yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,858 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 18 minutes ago, lasagna said: iran won't agree to this surely? so does that mean that when they don't agree trump views it as carte blanche to nuke them...? does anyone with more political knowledge have any predictions for whats going to happen I mean, Iran doesn’t want the war to continue either. Per Trump’s post, I doubt they’ve legitimately “ironed out all the details,” but the only party that legitimately wants this is Israel. Israel not only goaded Trump into this war using false intel, Israel has also openly threatened to submarine any potential peace talks between the US and Iran, so it’ll be interesting to see how they react to this. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,858 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 13 minutes ago, Bronco said: Itll be a bargaining tactic. He gets the long term win if the deal exists, but by backing down - Iran get a win now. What’s crazy about this, too, is as desperately as Trump is trying to save face here, this is objectively an L for him and the US lol. Destabilized the global oil market, revealed the extent to which his admin is fully cucked by Israel, legitimized and further aided Israel’s broader expansionist goals into Southern Lebanon, and further inflamed tensions in the region. Probably one of the dumbest wars the US has ever engaged in and that’s saying something. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 25,117 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yw4g3z7qgt?post=asset%3A9684977a-0d65-4e79-b379-18c7f27c813b#post Iranian State Media are broadcasting the Trump announcement now. "The headline says "Trump announces two-week ceasefire accepting Iran's conditions to end war" and the outlet also refers to "Trump's humiliating retreat from anti-Iran rhetoric"". I'd read this as a tanatamout announcement by the Iranians that they'll agree to the terms. The gays know how to party 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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