gagzus 18,493 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Wet Fire said: Gaga's overexposure also came at the time when she was walking around wearing fake moles and horns. She was questioning what is an "attractive" female pop star. This as well but her activism was very much the start of it because she was in the news more for her activism than her fashion in late 2011 into 2012 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 18,493 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 34 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: I thought about this. I was in middle school when Taylor Swift first got noticed. I remember her early songs on Youtube and how they were a topic for us. Now I am 27, and middle schoolers I teach still listen to her. Like I said in a previous comment that’s because she re-released her albums as re-recordings so to them it’s “new” music just like how older songs blow up on TikTok. It’s also why I don’t think in actuality she’s remotely close to Whitney or Celine (never mind Madonna) in sales if you take out the inflated sales/streams from her re-recordings. Her sales drop by like almost good 10-15% 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllusionLover 7,220 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, Economy said: I hope im wrong about that cuz shes a fraud with her numbers Is it fraud if people still buy her 20 variants tho? 13 | this is my dancefloor i fought for, your voice is louder, it echoes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllusionLover 7,220 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, gagzus said: She’s not suing her fans or demanding writing credits like Taylor did with Olivia Rodrigo Can people stop making these allegations? They were just seen hanging out at a concert 2 days ago. 13 | this is my dancefloor i fought for, your voice is louder, it echoes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 18,493 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, IllusionLover said: Can people stop making these allegations? They were just seen hanging out at a concert 2 days ago. They aren’t allegations though she got added to the official credits of the song as a songwriter because of it despite never writing a single word of it. You can be friends with someone even after a spat (look at Gaga and Madonna). Also to answer the other reply in the thread above, it IS cheating the system because her constant releasing of variants with little to no variation other than a single damn voice note (which is what it ended up as after she ran out of fully produced demos to add to the other variations), so much so Billboard had to change their rules after TTPD basically scammed it’s way through multiple sales boosts for weeks. Edited 8 hours ago by gagzus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 54,068 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, IllusionLover said: Is it fraud if people still buy her 20 variants tho? yes cus she puts them on a 48 hour time limit that pressures fans into buying them asap, preying on their fear of missing out mother, what must i do? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanishIntoMe 3,914 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) I think both of them will be regarded as legends in the end. Wether most of ya'll don't like it, Taylor has her creative talents and Gaga has hers. The ever discussions regarding variants are tired though. Edited 7 hours ago by VanishIntoMe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 29,532 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Meredith Grey said: The amount some of you hate Taylor swift is so funny to me. Like do you guys punch holes in your mom’s walls everytime she releases another variant or something lmao It's not hate, it's valid criticism lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavadour 2,647 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, Meredith Grey said: The amount some of you hate Taylor swift is so funny to me. Like do you guys punch holes in your mom’s walls everytime she releases another variant or something lmao I wouldn't actually call it hate. But it's true that, of all the reasons we love Gaga, not many of them apply to TS. Plus, the way some people constantly feel the need to force her presence on this site and drawing comparisons with Gaga is pretty annoying. Late to the party but I got a diamond heart Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 18,493 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, VanishIntoMe said: I think both of them will be regarded as legends in the end. Wether most of ya'll don't like it, Taylor has her creative talents and Gaga has hers. The ever discussions regarding variants are tired though. It is a valid criticism though, because variants is how she has gotten most of her sales boosts for her new material post Lover and it got to the point Billboard had to change their rules so she changed how her variants worked to get around the rules. Her sales are also majorly inflated because of streaming (Madonna’s numbers haven’t been updated from about 300m since the early days of streaming they’re probably closer to 400m now and were based on pure sales, they’ll probably be massively updated once her new album comes out) And because she released re-recorded albums. She’s released TEN albums since 2020. Only 4 of those were new albums. Most of which were just her spam releasing re-recordings and variants that gained her cheese sales and popularity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 11,740 Posted 17 minutes ago Share Posted 17 minutes ago Cher will outlast both of them because she's immortal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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