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Why are main pop boys a rare breed these days?


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When I was younger I used to love both the pop girls and pop boys but lately im realizing the younger generation don’t rlly got a designated pop boy for them… like the classic pop boys who giving u a lil dance some stage presence selling that young bf kinda vibe ig.

Ik they not fully gone, just a new form. the guys now—sombr, benson, alex, role model—they all blend together for me. i can’t really differentiate them… they all feel like the same “not like other boys” popstar. id rather a gay popstar become the next real male popstar over them… lil nas x rlly had IT during that demonic era and then u guys right he went overboard and no one took him seriously no more. shame cuz i remember when industry baby came out, the gays but also the straights rlly liked that song… had the perfect balance to appeal to both but idk if much women were there tho.

anyways, back then it was easier to tell. bruno mars had real popstar performance energy and the groovy funk sound, justin was versatile (usually ppl associate constancy with a popstar, but i think with him, i associate the opposite ig cuz it always felt like a new him everytime he came back… like going from raw r&b jail era to complete 180 in sound and image for purpose and then his musty era with trap music changes which flopped so he did the whole Christian look holy pop for the next era ig) and gave us drama, and the weeknd feels like a popstar too because of his clear crafted eras (the visuals, mvs, multiple singles for long eras) and dark aesthetic.

i kinda wish we’d get a clone from them rather than the new shawn/ed/harry clones but im guessing it’s cuz the later are more safe and fit in the new gen dudes standards. most my muts moved to kpop a few years back because they sell the full popstar package better.

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hELXIG

Idk. They're boring? Rise in conservatism means they are too afraid to push boundaries? And if they do it seems disingenuous?  I've always found men in music boring though. I've never believe in such things as an 'industry plant' but Sombr is the first time I started to wonder. Then I saw an interview in which he said he literally writes a hook, tests it on TikTok to see if it's worth making the full song, and then proceeded to pat himself on the back for being a marketing genius. If this is what they're doing now, instead of writing actual music to express themselves and their feelings and ideas, then it's no wonder they come across as generic with nothing to say

I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin.
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Dr Fudge

I think the Swiftologist explains it well. In short, they’re boring and reinvention often falls short for male pop stars both in execution as well as reception.

 

 

Been a cuff touple, a puff bupple, a tough couple of years.
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weed

Idk anything about anything but I feel like a lot of it falls on the consumer.. the people aren't streaming unique people

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Guillaume Hamon

Nearly none is good aside the "'older ones" like Abel and Bruno as you said...

Main reason imo! 

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zevthepaparazzo

As a wise midwestern princess once said:
Men don't make good art

Anything goes!
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BrandyFinest
25 minutes ago, zevthepaparazzo said:

As a wise midwestern princess once said:
Men don't make good art

It's funny how people become Mens Rights activists once a lesbian says something a littleeeeee mean.

everyone here knows that I'm not going to make life easy.
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HotLikeMexico

I dunno. Aside from MJ, I just don’t think there has been a man who has been bold enough to be that brave, while still having that commercial appeal that iconic female pop stars have done. Maybe The Weeknd but I’m not too familiar with his visuals and from what I’ve seen, I still feel like it’s still “lite” to be appealing to the masses. Maybe I’m wrong. 
 

I just wish there would be a male pop star who would be visually stimulating, controversial and just a powerhouse to the likes of female icons like Madonna, Gaga, Mylene Farmer, etc.

I also think it also comes down to the GP just not being ready to see a man do what a bold female pop star can do without being ridiculed or being a point of contention for masculinity. Its wild to even think about a male equivalent of Madonna or Gaga  

I dunno, these are just my thoughts.

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gagzus

I think it’s because they’re not viewed in the same way pop divas are, BUT tbf gays act like there’s no “main pop boys” when there is they’re just all more loved by straight men (and a lot of them are rappers more than pop singers). 
 

When men make pop music anything like the girls we never seem to support them, like Sam Smith, Harry Styles and Troye Sivan have had amazing albums over the last few years but gays dont rant and rave about them like we do girls. Lil Nas X was probably the closest we got to a main pop boy but we all seemed to stop caring about him idk why

Plus a lot of Pop men are straight and scared to go outside the norm.

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Chesescake
37 minutes ago, gagzus said:

Lil Nas X was probably the closest we got to a main pop boy but we all seemed to stop caring about him idk why

Because every single after Montero era was just forgettable and average.

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Alxjcgn
1 hour ago, gagzus said:

Plus a lot of Pop men are straight and scared to go outside the norm.

Yes and then when they go outside the norm they get hit with so much shi* and don't just stay fierce or confident with their expression (not all, but for purposes of this post I am guessing that is a big factor).

I miss male popstars who weren't afraid of the fight, weren't afraid of androgyny, and/or weren't afraid to branch out of their musical comfort zone. 

I also think bands/groups of men who do pop are for whatever reason more accepted than a solo artist, and that maybe plays a huge role in it. 

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TheARTPOPball
1 hour ago, HotLikeMexico said:

I dunno. Aside from MJ, I just don’t think there has been a man who has been bold enough to be that brave, while still having that commercial appeal that iconic female pop stars have done. Maybe The Weeknd but I’m not too familiar with his visuals and from what I’ve seen, I still feel like it’s still “lite” to be appealing to the masses. Maybe I’m wrong. 
 

I just wish there would be a male pop star who would be visually stimulating, controversial and just a powerhouse to the likes of female icons like Madonna, Gaga, Mylene Farmer, etc.

 

Don’t you worry, I’m coming 😛

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zevthepaparazzo
1 minute ago, TheARTPOPball said:

Don’t you worry, I’m coming 😛

vanish into you (cover) feat. zev coming?? :oohrightthereyeah:

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TheARTPOPball
38 minutes ago, zevthepaparazzo said:

vanish into you (cover) feat. zev coming?? :oohrightthereyeah:

Yes

and

Paparazzi (cover) VFEST version live from TAMPA FL 🤭

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janetjackson

The Weekend, Sam Smith, Bruno Mars, Bad Bunny, Harry Styles. They can create hits and have relatively innovative and compelling performances. 

 

 

 

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