DopeEnigma 1,774 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Now that’s an effective politician, so many others should take note. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
msr 83 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 hours ago, Jill said: This isn't an example of horseshoe theory for two reasons: 1. the theory itself is rubbish and fails to correspond to reality and 2. Mamdani is by no means, and under no circumstances, far left. He is at most a slightly left leaning Democrat. While that might be difficult for right aligned Americans to comprehend, it's the objective and very evident political reality in the rest of the world. Thanks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbage day 11,816 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 9 hours ago, LGAte said: I think that sometimes the far left just bumps into the far right. It’s horseshoe theory. they both are playing strategies. Trump probably believes he can outsmart Mamdani. Mamdani probably is feeding into his bullshit just enough to get **** actually done. I get people wanna joke that Trump has a crush. But there is a very real game play happening here and none of this coincidence. again, the far ends of the spectrum bump into eachother…for different motivations….albeit similar goals That's absolutely not what horseshoe theory is, Jesus Christ. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllusionLover 7,549 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Mandami for president 2028 13 | this is my dancefloor i fought for, your voice is louder, it echoes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,498 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, IllusionLover said: Mandami for president 2028 I wish he could run 😔 We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamartia 3,018 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 "That's okay, you can just say yes" "I lied. I lied!" (Germanotta, 2025) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACATL 2,125 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 All people have to do is shower praise on Trump to his face and he’s putty in their hands. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACATL 2,125 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: I wish he could run 😔 Why? So GOP could win in a landslide? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,498 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, MACATL said: Why? So GOP could win in a landslide? Because he’s probably the most effective communicator in the Dem party right now and will likely have proven to be an incredibly effective mayor by the time that he’s finished his term, given that he’s already gotten the Governor of NY to agree to fund universal childcare statewide, appears to have secured massive union support and housing development funds in collaboration with an adversarial presidential administration, as well as negotiated the release of several activists being held by that same admin, not to mention having handled the recent blizzard like a champ by putting New Yorkers to work to clear the streets and roads. Hell, even Polymarket is taking cues from Mamdani’s interest in fighting food insecurity and fighting for affordability by opening a free grocery store in Astoria. Running towards the middle is a losing game. Running pols who are effective and deliver on promises that effect the lives of every day people is the only available future if the Dems ever want to win again. People aren’t looking for milquetoast establishment do-nothings who try not to rock the boat (as evidenced by the fact that Dem leadership in Congress’ approval rating is almost as underwater as Trump’s and he’s the most unpopular he’s ever been rn), people want politicians who promise things that help them and deliver. They want politicians that actually believe in something. Nominating a boilerplate establishment Dem is how you lose 2028 in a landslide, not by nominating an effective, principled communicator who actually cares about and fights for working people. Edited February 27 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,498 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 17 hours ago, Zombiecat said: thump has a whole ai engine creating visuals of mamdani hitting him from behind iktr He and I both, tbf We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purrrrrr 18,075 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: He and I both, tbf mandome Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACATL 2,125 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 9 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Because he’s probably the most effective communicator in the Dem party right now and will likely have proven to be an incredibly effective mayor by the time that he’s finished his term, given that he’s already gotten the Governor of NY to agree to fund universal childcare statewide, appears to have secured massive union support and housing development funds in collaboration with an adversarial presidential administration, as well as negotiated the release of several activists being held by that same admin, not to mention having handled the recent blizzard like a champ by putting New Yorkers to work to clear the streets and roads. Hell, even Polymarket is taking cues from Mamdani’s interest in fighting food insecurity and fighting for affordability by opening a free grocery store in Astoria. Running towards the middle is a losing game. Running pols who are effective and deliver on promises that effect the lives of every day people is the only available future if the Dems ever want to win again. People aren’t looking for milquetoast establishment do-nothings who try not to rock the boat (as evidenced by the fact that Dem leadership in Congress’ approval rating is almost as underwater as Trump’s and he’s the most unpopular he’s ever been rn), people want politicians who promise things that help them and deliver. They want politicians that actually believe in something. Nominating a boilerplate establishment Dem is how you lose 2028 in a landslide, not by nominating an effective, principled communicator who actually cares about and fights for working people. Biden 2020 was a prime example of why, in this moment in time, “running towards the middle” is indeed not a losing game. Had Biden been in 2020 mental shape in 2024, he would still be president. À Muslim would 100% lose in a landslide…in 2028. Years down the road? Who knows? But dems would be wise to “read the room” before sending out Pete, Kamala, etc this go around. I’d love to be wrong, but I don’t believe I am. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,498 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 10 hours ago, MACATL said: Biden 2020 was a prime example of why, in this moment in time, “running towards the middle” is indeed not a losing game. Had Biden been in 2020 mental shape in 2024, he would still be president. À Muslim would 100% lose in a landslide…in 2028. Years down the road? Who knows? But dems would be wise to “read the room” before sending out Pete, Kamala, etc this go around. I’d love to be wrong, but I don’t believe I am. Biden, by and large, won due to anti-incumbency anger related to the COVID recession and the chaos Trump stoked. No one voted for Biden because they were inspired by him, they voted for him because they were sick of Trump. Also we elected a man named Barack Hussein Obama as president, so I’m not buying the “Harris lost solely because of bigotry” argument. Was that a piece of the puzzle? Probably. But the fact that she’s a fairly inept communicator with no intelligible ideology and no real achievements to campaign on who ran on a boilerplate empty pantsuit platform probably hurt her significantly more than her identity. We need a vision and Americans want a vision and the moderate wing has none other than tinkering on the margins, which won’t win elections. Edited February 28 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 31,812 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, MACATL said: Biden 2020 was a prime example of why, in this moment in time, “running towards the middle” is indeed not a losing game. He wasn't enthusiastically elected by any means and almost provoked a fracture within the party. He was bound to lose and couldn't sustain a functioning coalition. But yeah sure doing the same things over and over again is definitely the answer. This time it'll work out I'm sure. Edited February 28 by Jill Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 Ft Queenie 640 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 22 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Nah, Trump is genuinely just easily starstruck and incredibly susceptible to flattery. Also in no world is Mamdani “far-left” lol. He’s an FDR Democrat. Thank you, finally sense on here. Im from NZ and the democrats are considered centrist & even leaning right compared to european countries . Anyway ofc i like them (clearly not excusing the nazi far right government worst in nz history rn threatening maori people) Free Palestine 🍉 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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