eifulien 3,019 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I'm not truly emotionally invested in Gaga's rewards since I celebrate her musicianship anyway and MAYHEM is absolutely amazing with or without any GRAMMYs. What annoys me particularly when it comes to the Grammys is the lack of consistency in their criteria. For example, if Debí tirar más fotos earned the award for its political stance and the current US context, where was that energy for Born This Way, BEYONCÉ, Lemonade? All 3 albums had the cultural impact, the political stance, the industry push, etc. and yet it was the "musically superior" ones that won over - 21, Morning Phase & 25. Sooo where's that energy NOW when MAYHEM is the one that's all about mastery in the musical aspect? It's like Gaga got screwed by the generational shift that happened. I feel like MAYHEM would've won 15 years ago, while now the new generation is trying to "right the wrongs" of times past by recognising the cultural impact. On Bad Bunny - guys, please help me understand. I just don't see the appeal. I've tried listening to the album multiple times and it's just mediocre. Where's the impact? I know some Spanish, I'm a Spanish teacher so I don't have the language barrier, but maybe the cultural one? I just can't stand his enunciation. I liked stuff from J Balvin back in the day, I appreciate Camila Cabello's Familia. I love Shakira. Rosalía is an absolute beast. But how do we put Bad Bunny next to them? For me, he's the Migos of music in Spanish. So yeah... I'd appreciate your take on what makes this album good or at least listenable. 6 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagini 3,646 Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 16 minutes ago, thisboyisamonster said: Mayhem and Abra got pop field awards they were nominated in. It's good enough. Maybe as a fan base we can stop looking to Grammy's or Pitchfork for validation constantly and enjoy her music/shows which are clearly meant for us in the first instance rather than critics/the academy. Sure, but it is something Gaga/people in her industry care about. It's why she did the Rolling Stone spread, interviews, etc. late in the season. I can't help but feel like 15 years on, people still undervalue her position as an artist. She will outwrite, outproduce, outperform majority of previous AOTY winners 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagini 3,646 Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, eifulien said: I'm not truly emotionally invested in Gaga's rewards since I celebrate her musicianship anyway and MAYHEM is absolutely amazing with or without any GRAMMYs. What annoys me particularly when it comes to the Grammys is the lack of consistency in their criteria. For example, if Debí tirar más fotos earned the award for its political stance and the current US context, where was that energy for Born This Way, BEYONCÉ, Lemonade? All 3 albums had the cultural impact, the political stance, the industry push, etc. and yet it was the "musically superior" ones that won over - 21, Morning Phase & 25. Sooo where's that energy NOW when MAYHEM is the one that's all about mastery in the musical aspect? It's like Gaga got screwed by the generational shift that happened. I feel like MAYHEM would've won 15 years ago, while now the new generation is trying to "right the wrongs" of times past by recognising the cultural impact. On Bad Bunny - guys, please help me understand. I just don't see the appeal. I've tried listening to the album multiple times and it's just mediocre. Where's the impact? I know some Spanish, I'm a Spanish teacher so I don't have the language barrier, but maybe the cultural one? I just can't stand his enunciation. I liked stuff from J Balvin back in the day, I appreciate Camila Cabello's Familia. I love Shakira. Rosalía is an absolute beast. But how do we put Bad Bunny next to them? For me, he's the Migos of music in Spanish. So yeah... I'd appreciate your take on what makes this album good or at least listenable. I like Bad Bunny, but I agree. Many songs DTMF fall flat and don't really go anywhere after a while. Mayhem and GNX are better albums, but the last part of GNX is really bleh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromanne 2,294 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Yeah I'm slightly upset too but this will definitely motivate her to bring a massive bang with LG8. She's already so inspired by MAYHEM's appreciation and we can't even fathom what she's going to deliver next 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idefix1999 288 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Sorry everyone who was rooting for Mayhem for AOTY and Harlequin for BTPVA, I think I jinxed it. I made a small appreciation post on my Insta with the caption "Album of The Year and Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album 2026?", then I went to sleep, hoping the post would reach a few other Gaga fans. This morning I woke up to three likes from people who always like my posts and Gaga losing her nominations. I am deeply sorry and I've learned my lesson... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idefix1999 288 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 But to be more serious: especially in the AOTY category there were many strong albums. She lost to the first full Spanish language album to ever win AOTY, which is a strong sign in these times of xenophobia. Bad Bunny gave strong words and I know that Gaga supports this. She didn't lose to an album which gets the Grammy thrown after because of complaints, that this artist hasn't won this specific category yet. We can agree that some artists get awards outstandingly often, winning categories multiple times. But so many other artists like Cyndi Lauper, Kylie Minogue, P!nk, Cher and others have "only" a little number of Grammys and are legends of their own? They are more present and known by the public than some artists who dominate a Grammy year and disappear into the khia asylum the year after... And doesn't this mean that Gaga has a Grammy connected to every studio album except for ARTPOP? That's an achievement as it shows consistency many wish to have for their career Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obobo 3,759 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Every year they need an artist to push "the first _____" to keep them relevant or whatever politically would keep the music industry under good faith to the working class. We know we keep views and social media engagement high, they're basically edging us for as long as possible lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawUp 143 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 16 Grammys so far and her career is not over. Chill yall. 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bim 773 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Gaga had a great night, I’m incredibly proud of her. Two more Grammys, Gesaffelstein won for his Abracadabra remix, Cirkut won producer of the year, her performance was *chefs kiss*, and she looked stunning throughout. As much as I’d love to see her bring home more awards, and as much as I love Mayhem, there was some strong competition this year. Especially from a songwriting lens, Wildflower is truly beautiful. Lola Young is such a little gem and packed full of talent. I’m happy she won and got some credit at the Grammys. Kendrick has so much integrity in his music, I’m never offended when he snags a win. And Bad Bunny put out a solid record that deserves to be highlighted at this point in time. He seems quite sincere as a human and very humble about it all. Gaga proved with Mayhem and all that’s come with this era that she ain’t going anywhere. Her creativity is at an all-time high and her talents are becoming more fine-tuned by the day. The best part, she seems genuinely happy and healthy. I’m excited as hell to be on this ride with her and can’t wait to see what she brings to the table next. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawline4dayz 513 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, eifulien said: Where's the impact? Dtmf really is a good album. The title alone makes me tear up. It’s very much a bout family and close ones with also a political message about colonialism and culture. This is so well deserved. It could be a cultural barrier honestly. But just because you don’t get it, doesn’t devalue his win. I’m more upset about Billie winning over Gaga 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacs vs looser 4,845 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I wish y'all would get it through your head: she is never winning a general field award and that's something to make peace with. She didn't win with Born this way, she didn't win with Shallow (ASIB not even nominated), she didn't win with DWAS and last night she didn't win with MAYHEM: It's just not happening. You can rationalize it any way you want but every year when she looses there will be: a stronger song/album, a bigger message a split vote etc, and she's simply not taking it. No amount of essays on this site or Gold Derby predictions will change that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 18,676 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Nagini said: Sure, but it is something Gaga/people in her industry care about. It's why she did the Rolling Stone spread, interviews, etc. late in the season. I can't help but feel like 15 years on, people still undervalue her position as an artist. She will outwrite, outproduce, outperform majority of previous AOTY winners I don't think people undervalue her position as an artist. Its just that pop music has never really done that well in the AOTY category. She's never really put out a pop album that fits the vibe of any pop album that's won AOTY during her career which are typically very safe albums (Taylor/Adele/Harry). She does very very well in the pop categories though, so the critics/voters who specifically focus and enjoy that genre recognise her. I think she's just too maximalist as a pop act to ever really pick up cross-community support at the Grammys for AOTY The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic 262 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Part of me is slightly shocked because I felt like Mayhem had a massive year. It felt like the GP celebrated this album too. It was the first time we’ve seen the GP go crazy for her since The Fame tbh, but nonetheless it’s just an award, and Bad Bunny deserved it as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotLikeMexico 6,106 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) The way some people are discrediting Bad Bunny's win is giving me the ick. When "Born This Way" didn't win, the fans said "the Grammys need to award albums with social and political messages." Mayhem doesn't win, "they need to stop awarding albums just to make political statements." Which is it then? I feel like the way some of you "fans" have reacted to this goes against everything Gaga stands for. GGD is an echo chamber but outside of this forum, the sad reality is, a lot of publications and people didn't put Mayhem as their album winning. Even this site alone, did we all just magically forgot how many on GGD reacted to this album? It was pretty polarizing when the album finally dropped. Some said there was too many filler songs, it wasn't experimental enough, where is "darkga?", there is too much disco, Killah sucks, Blade of Grass is the worst thing she's written, the list goes on and on. This fanbase is so confusing sometimes. Anyways, Bad Bunny won, Gaga gave an uplifting interview and she's happy for him. She had a great year, the tour was incredible, she's brought old fans back and gained many new ones, she'll always be an icon. She has 16 Grammys already, she's doing fine. Edited February 4 by HotLikeMexico 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourEvilTwin 1,384 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Cirkut’s producer win was a good indicator that Mayhem probably would’ve won if it weren’t for the political and cultural moment Bad Bunny represents. Honestly I’m not too mad about it. Who here actually thought that she would’ve come so close to winning when the album launched? Much as I love Mayhem, let’s face it - it was a decently performed album that only had two singles with neither cracking top 10. For a pop album with moderate commercial success from a megastar to come this far at the Grammys is almost unheard of. If you’re one of the 12 non-Swifties who still care about the Grammys, this should give you plenty of hope that there’s a great chance she’ll win the big ones someday when timing finally favors her for once. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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