Bronco 25,129 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Yeah and I think that, while China wants technological and economical hegemony, they know that they can’t really achieve that if they engage in overt conflict with US/Russia in a way that destabilizes global trade markets and vice versa (sort of it’s own form of mutually assured destruction ethos). It's why I've said for years now that China will win the race for global power without firing a single bullet. And I seriously think we're reaching the end game of their plan given recent mobilisations around Taiwan. The gays know how to party 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,823 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 55 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: I’ve stopped discussing politics with most people irl cause they can’t hold two thoughts in their heads and are largely ignorant on history. At least on here and Twitter many people are more willing to have actual discussions. All of my Venezuelan friends are celebrating and I told one why we must celebrate with caution and they weren’t having it WELP, they can enjoy today but the reality is still to be seen. Hopefully it’s good, but these are things that have to be analyzed and thought out imo. can you explain us in detail, why are they celebrating? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 9 minutes ago, IllusionLover said: There were no bombings on civilians, only Military bases which Maduro's controls (or used to control) Agreed, I dislike Trump very much and still do, but I am someone who is living illegally on a foreign country because me and my family had to run away of our home in search of a 'stable' life outside Venezuela. I grew up watching the country be destroyed by the Chavist government In war, accidents and missed targets happen with alarming frequency The fact that they arent targeting civilians doesnt mean some wont still get hurt or killed by either being at the wrong place at the wrong time or by there being misfire Also civilians can at times be in or near military instilations for one reason or another. No matter how u put it, innocent ppl always end up dying in bombings especially if they end uo being sustained 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dojo 19,823 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Is Mexico next?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 15,864 Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Dojo said: can you explain us in detail, why are they celebrating? 11 minutes ago, 27monster27 said: To anyone saying that "Venezuelans want this", here is what I have to say: Maduro sucked, clearly. No questions asked. However, his regime means that they lack the education (NOT their fault) to see that this an "under new management" scenario. The US has tried constant regime changes that have lead to bloodshed, Imperial Japan did this with the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere to use "liberation" as an excuse for g3nocide, the Ukrainian populace welcomed the N@zis with open arms as liberators to only be slaughtered, etc. The Venezuelan people deserve to be under their own control, and not under the control of Maduro NOR Trump. Basically what I said. Maduro is a dictator who is evil. By every means he 100% is deserving of being deposed, but many people are unaware that this is a US ploy to get new management in the country that Trump controls. See my above post for a history of why this is dangerous. he/him/his 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout19 15,796 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 What kind of world are we living in?! i am a free woman. ○● Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,032 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Dojo said: can you explain us in detail, why are they celebrating? Because Maduro is a dictator and has run the economy into the ground. He rigged the previous election, jails political opponents, disbanded the legislature to consolidate power, imposed restrictions on independent media, and uses state police to intimidate his opponents. Not to mention that many believe he has severely mismanaged the Venezuelan economy to the point that many people have fled the country due to widespread lack of access to basic necessities and hyperinflation. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,032 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Dojo said: Is Mexico next?? Why would Mexico be next? We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 15,864 Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 This a post by a user Mad Bad Rabbit on Alternatehistory.com that gives a good rundown on what this is essentially supposed to do: "1. It will distract from the Epstein files. 2. It will create a new refugee crisis Miller and Noem can exploit. 3. It will remind any country not a member of the Nuclear Club that the US can do anything it likes to them." he/him/his 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 12 minutes ago, Bronco said: The only slightly possible way we could end up in WW3 is if China realises that territorially it's currently the weakest super power. But it's the strongest super power in so many other ways that are significantly more important. And I think China has deliberately positioned itself to be the victor of the new world order given the US and Russian obsessian with oil reserves and 20th century industry meanwhile China is the dominator of the "future proof" tech industries (and taking Taipei will cement this beyond challenge). This. We have the worlds largest economy (USA) starting trade wars that hurt itself based on chasing 1970s industries The USA literally excells at exporting high valued services and tech that produce more wealth and GDP per person (which Trump likes to exclude in his trade Deficit calculations) than factories making making shoes but thats what hes chasing an alienating allies over. Talk about a serious miscalculation The US isnt poor, its not ripped off by the world, and it doesnt have a productivity problem or a lack of exports (if you honestly measure everything and not just Walmart merchandise) What the US has is an inequality problem and a tax code that doesnt address it. But chasing 1970s industries will not give you 1970s middle class prosperity in the 21st century world I get so angry at this cuz its next level stupidity and Trump keeps blaming other Countries for it including Canada where im from (which btw even for what hes chasing, the US has a manufacturing trade surplus with Canada, all deficit is accounted soley due to energy imports, so were a net contributer to US factories ) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemoMyName 2,195 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, 27monster27 said: 2. It will create a new refugee crisis he's late by like 10 years??? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,032 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, NemoMyName said: he's late by like 10 years??? *New* refugee crisis lol. Meaning it will compound a pre-existing problem. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkmanthaC 115,047 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, HeavyCapiLover said: I'm sorry but from a non-american point of view, no one joining the US military should be respected. The US army has been since decades a complete terrorist organization, invading, bombing and ruining countless countries, responsible for million of losses. Anyone willingly joining this imperial mass destruction organization is either stupid and completly blinded by propaganda, or a truely evil person, or both. And in 2025, I think that most people know that all these US led wars are never for a good cause and never end up right. Just to offer some perspective some people join the military out of a necessity. To leave the situation, get an education etc. My mom and bio dad both joined when they were 18. It was the only way they could get a college education. The US gives “perks” like education for joining like this which is how we actually end up with people joining. Not to say some people don’t join because they want to support the US military efforts etc because that also happens. she/her/hers 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 This "We Venezuelans want this" nonsense that three people in here are posting is straight up Trump CIA propaganda. It's a classic CIA tactic. It's so transparent that the "my country yearns for freedom" line has been a meme online for years. Don't fall for it: https://x.com/dropsitenews/status/2007484338254893453?s=46 Multiple Venezuelan civilians have been reported killed by the illegal US bombings. The US invaded a sovereign country and illegally kidnapped a sitting president so that Trump could hand over all of their oil to US corporations and potentially install a zionist as president who publicly promised to give all their oil to the US if they invaded and installed her as leader. Trump has already said, flat out, that this was about stealing Venezuelan oil: https://x.com/clashreport/status/2007390816239820889?s=46 This is classic, overt colonialism carried out by a man who was just outed as a pedophile and wants to change the subject by giving American corporations and neocons what they've wanted for decades. This is straightforward American imperialism. 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemoMyName 2,195 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: *New* refugee crisis lol. Meaning it will compound a pre-existing problem. Not a valid claim in my book. It's not like the inmigration problem changed or declined these years to say that. Saying stuff like that is deniying that maduro regimen itself wasn't a problem that caused immigration before this invasion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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