US Attacks the Venezuelan Capital and Captures Maduro

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For context, regardless of US intentions this isn’t surprising at all given Venezuela has been in an ongoing communist regime for decades now, so Maduro’s imprisonment isn’t something to be surprised of or sympathized with.  We should be concerned with the intentions behind and what follows.

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25 minutes ago, River said:

Can you explain to me please how is that even possible if he is not a US citizen? isn't it a UN justice matter?

If they could capture them that easily, why they didn't do that to the narco lords from Mexico all this time instead of punishing the people who are escaping this bad faith from Mexico to the US?

Like nothing makes sense to me here.

Can the US just capture leaders of other countries and arrest them? 

Ppl seriously over estimate the UN. They say all the nice and pretty things but their ability to enforce anything is actually quite limited. Theyve existed for many decades and whatever war Countries want to have stilll happen, and if a really wants to ignore a UN matter they do 

 

The UN is equivalent to a 4th grade teacher telling a bad class class of kids to settle down and somehow actually enforcing that on all kids. A few might listen, the ones that dont want to simply wont, and its not as if the teacher can spank them into doing it. There no real (serious) consequence at the end of the day other than maybe some organized sanctions

[BrandyFinest 833]

People who cheer this on because they dislike Maduro are knowingly cheering on the bombing of innocent civilians and basking in it at worst and are mis-informed at best. The US will just install a right wing dictatorship in the place of the current Maduro admin. We talk a big game about how much we love promoting democracy abroad but we never actually follow through on it. 

 

The US will not be the savior of the Venezuelan people, they're not even the saviors of their own citizens.  

[NemoMyName 2,193]

Let's not, let's not put Maduro as a victim because he's not. He has been really problematic for the region.

[Concertaholic 6,578]

This is insane. I know Maduro is a horrible person but you don’t just capture the leader of a sovereign nation!? I’m too young to remember but my dad said we did do this before with Saddam Hussein in Iraq…

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6 hours ago, skaxboy said:

THIS!!!! Honestly, I respect TF out of our veterans and their call to serve. But also, how many people from wealthy, affluent families join the service? 

I'm sorry but from a non-american point of view, no one joining the US military should be respected. The US army has been since decades a complete terrorist organization, invading, bombing and ruining countless countries, responsible for million of losses. Anyone willingly joining this imperial mass destruction organization is either stupid and completly blinded by propaganda, or a truely evil person, or both. And in 2025, I think that most people know that all these US led wars are never for a good cause and never end up right.

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18 minutes ago, NemoMyName said:

Let's not, let's not put Maduro as a victim because he's not. He has been really problematic for the region.

Agreed but two things can be true at once

 

The fact Maduro sucked doesnt mean Trump is whole heartedly doing this for a good cause or that he doesnt have ugly motives or that he went about this the best way

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27 minutes ago, Economy said:

If thats the reason I dont get it. Oil is not quite as valuable as it used to be. Critical earths are about to surpass oil in necessity

 

There is no global shortage of oil and in fact oil (inflation adjusted) is actually becoming very cheap by historical standards. Prices are the same as they were 20 years ago without accounting even for inflation (not so much for the actual refined product like gasoline, diesel or jet fuel but u cant invade that, u build refineries for more capacity and Venezuela has a limited number if them built anyway, the US has way more)

 

Better yet, venezuela may have very large oil reserves but they are comperable to Canadas oil sands. They take many years of investment and mamy billions of dollars to get going cuz the infrastructure required for them is complex. And even once thats accomplished, its always a more expensive oil to produce compared to conventional oil such as found in Saudi Arabia so profits would have its limits

 

Dunno if its really about oil. But if it is, its a stupid reason. Ur chasing an expensive source for a commodity thats become very abundant and cheap WW 

Venezuela is not only rich in oil, but cobalt, gold, copper, and many many other minerals. Taking Venezuela would also help the US to move inward in South America to keep looting its resources.

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1 minute ago, Economy said:

Agreed but two things can be true at once

Of course, the drug thing is true and that US wants to control oil it's also true.

C'mon, It's a very american thing try to profit and take advantage of a real problem.

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5 minutes ago, Concertaholic said:

This is insane. I know Maduro is a horrible person but you don’t just capture the leader of a sovereign nation!? I’m too young to remember but my dad said we did do this before with Saddam Hussein in Iraq…

I think It is slightly different for him, Venezuela is poor, it’s not like they have nuclear weapons or a strong Military that could cause tensions and prevent nations to interfere. Allies might though, but it seems this was also negotiated with Putin. 

Trump probably got away with it by justifying his attacks saying they were counterattacks on terrorism. 

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9 minutes ago, Babel said:

Venezuela is not only rich in oil, but cobalt, gold, copper, and many many other minerals. Taking Venezuela would also help the US to move inward in South America to keep looting its resources.

Or at least the Corporations anyway

 

That makes more of a case. If it was JUST oil its a bit if a weak reason imo but then again I suppose Exxon could of lobbied

[Fernster7 7,976]

I have to laugh at people trying to explain to Venezuelans the consequences of this. Girl, we know, we still celebrate this because that man deserves to suffer and rot in jail, I can assure you that you have no idea of the things that happen in Venezuela. 

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1 hour ago, NemoMyName said:

Of course, the drug thing is true and that US wants to control oil it's also true.

C'mon, It's a very american thing try to profit and take advantage of a real problem.

Yeah, but I think thats the main thing ppl are criticizing anyway. The US is attacking and certainly not for good motives so thats the criticism.

 

Its not like theres been a single comment sayiny Poor Maduro. Literally no one is saying that

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All of you aware this is mainly for the oil, right? All these Maduro stuffs are just a front, like yes he is horrible but that's not these war monger Republicans are actually after. Just like GW Bush and his attack on Afghan and Iraq under the guise of 9/11 & Saddam Hussein before. 

Venezuela’s proven oil reserves are around 300 billion barrels, which is more than any other country, including Saudi Arabia.

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37 minutes ago, BrandyFinest said:

People who cheer this on because they dislike Maduro are knowingly cheering on the bombing of innocent civilians and basking in it at worst and are mis-informed at best. The US will just install a right wing dictatorship in the place of the current Maduro admin. We talk a big game about how much we love promoting democracy abroad but we never actually follow through on it. 

 

The US will not be the savior of the Venezuelan people, they're not even the saviors of their own citizens.  

Same violence they’ve lived for decades in the same way or through other forms of oppression. Most of us are privileged enough to not have ever encountered what living under a regime is like, I don’t think we have a right to tell Venezuelan people how to react under these circumstances. Change is a grey area for them.