Taylor Swift's TLOAS To Drop 92% In Its Second Week

[HIMe 2,114]

4 hours ago, 2School4Cool said:

This isn't shade at all but I’m not surprised given the lukewarm reaction to the album. Those colossal first week numbers came from the pre-release vinyl/physical sales which were based on general hype of Taylor having a new album. The album itself didn’t have the best reception, so less people returned to it the following week.

Again no shade but the first week numbers (which were excellent!!) are less of a reflection of the album’s reception and more of a reflection of the general hype of Taylor putting out new music.

 

Her second week numbers are still above all the other girls first week. 

So by that logic we could conclude that the album is having great reception from the GP? 

[Sir 1,582]

Swifties go buying more variants to save Taylor’s record 

[hELXIG 43,525]

sksksk nvm

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[Lucas 27,598]

8 hours ago, Alxjcgn said:

Probably still a good amount but not a lot- From everything I saw in promo she had this smirk on her face and talked this project up like she actually put thought into it.

I really want her to drop something again just to see if her fans buy back into her bullshit or finally realize she needs to just take a break and get inspired to make something good.

Come for me, but even the poets department album was awful, and whatever one came before it lol. I try to keep an open mind with any music, but her music has been unbearable for the last several years because it feels it came out of a factory. 

Yeah, there is a constant decline since Midnights. I like half of the songs on Midnights, around 5 songs on TTPD, and 1 song on TLOAS  She is very much uninspired, and put a priority on quantity over quality. The fact that Max Martin couldn't save TLOAS is very revealing...

TTPD is the flattest album I've ever heard. Everything from vocals to melodies to instrumentals are FLAT as hell and boring, and it's the same for the album cover, what a snoozefest. Water soup kind of album.

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8 hours ago, HIMe said:

Mmm I sense a bit of hypocrisy here. 

Gaga did it with Born This Way (yes Amazon bought the copies, but her team still approved the deal). 

Wasn't Joanne or Chromatica also combined with tour tickets which inflated the first week sales ? 

Or DWAS being added last minute on MAYHEM, which massively helped its streaming numbers. 

 

The point being that if Gaga could do these kind of tactics to debut with a million again (let alone 4 millions), she'd do it again! 

none of this comes even close to the stunts taylor pulled

[AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,579]

8 hours ago, HIMe said:

Mmm I sense a bit of hypocrisy here. 

Gaga did it with Born This Way (yes Amazon bought the copies, but her team still approved the deal). 

Wasn't Joanne or Chromatica also combined with tour tickets which inflated the first week sales ? 

Or DWAS being added last minute on MAYHEM, which massively helped its streaming numbers. 

 

The point being that if Gaga could do these kind of tactics to debut with a million again (let alone 4 millions), she'd do it again! 

Gaga's albums have never banked that heavily on pre-sale numbers. And afaik she never tried to sell her fans voice notes either. Chromatica definitely wasn't bundled with tour tickets because it came after the rule change if I remember correctly, though it's possible that Joanne was. But Gaga has never released time restricted variants to induce fomo in her fans. Or put out 30+ variants. Her  releasing the Mayhem "Deluxe" didn't even include physicals, though you know Taylor would have squeezed her fans for that extra copy a piece or even released multiple variants with different covers. 

 

I truly feel like Gaga could pull the type of promo that Taylor does. Not to the effect of 4 million, but definitely to 300k-500k.  But she simply doesn't want to. She could wear things for shock factor, including re-wearing the meat dress. But I feel she's always stuck to her artistic vision for an era. And I feel you can honestly see the difference in conviction between what her label is requiring her to do in order to promote an album versus what she wants to do. Gaga strays away from repeating herself in a lot of ways, while Taylor would (and has) embrace(d) it. 

 

5 hours ago, Sir said:

Swifties go buying more variants to save Taylor’s record 

Taylor has a new record. Biggest second week sales decline ever!

[RAMROD 110,705]

As it should. Only first week matters for headlines. The rest after that is just about having legs, even if it sells lower and/or slowly. 

[Lemon Blood 236]

Well with the colossal amount of music she’s been pumping out lately a flop era was bound to happen eventually 

[Skyana Rava 1,777]

Y'all remember the Born This Way first week drop was also like 87% or something right? 

[RAMROD 110,705]

11 minutes ago, Lemon Blood said:

Well with the colossal amount of music she’s been pumping out lately a flop era was bound to happen eventually 

She is selling more copies than any modern pop stars today, and having all tracks on the album on Top 12 of Billboard Top 100 charts and topping UK Charts as well, how is she flopping exactly? Ain't no way  

[RAMROD 110,705]

8 minutes ago, Skyana Rava said:

Y'all remember the Born This Way first week drop was also like 87% or something right? 

Exactly. And Taylor achieved all these million copies with full price instead of 99 cents amazon discount. All these blind Taylor hate got people talking crazy 

[Alxjcgn 624]

11 hours ago, HIMe said:

Mmm I sense a bit of hypocrisy here. 

Gaga did it with Born This Way (yes Amazon bought the copies, but her team still approved the deal). 

Wasn't Joanne or Chromatica also combined with tour tickets which inflated the first week sales ? 

Or DWAS being added last minute on MAYHEM, which massively helped its streaming numbers. 

 

The point being that if Gaga could do these kind of tactics to debut with a million again (let alone 4 millions), she'd do it again! 

Would have to go back and read about BTW; I do remember Joanne CDs being sold alongside tickets, but she announced the tour after the superbowl which was months after... and I remember that being a thing a lot of artists used to do (I still have a Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood CD that I got when I had bought concert tix to them years ago.... and always assumed it was how they get rid of the CDs since people stopped buying them).  My best guess with DWAS would be it happened because the label wanted it and Gaga loved the song, but I don't know her personally so who knows if she was watching the charts closely.  It seemed like such an interesting choice to have tacked it onto the album, but the concept of waking up from a dream as a last song and thinking of it sung between gaga and mayhem makes the whole thing make sense. It is an amazing song live and as a single, but I'll be honest and say I skip it when listening to the album 

I think the argument mainly being made is the sheer chronicity in which material (and an absurd amount of versions of it) gets released by some artists

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[Alxjcgn 624]

1 hour ago, Skyana Rava said:

Y'all remember the Born This Way first week drop was also like 87% or something right? 

It definitely is similar in the way that fans were going nuts and eager with anticipation, I don't remember a lot of fans complaining about it when it first dropped. I also think so much more music that was good was being released around that time and so people were listening to everything. I also don't recall streaming platforms during BTW's release so you bought the album and then you listened to it on your own time over and over (Thats how I listened to music for years but I'm old lol) 

[Alxjcgn 624]

2 hours ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

Gaga's albums have never banked that heavily on pre-sale numbers. And afaik she never tried to sell her fans voice notes either. Chromatica definitely wasn't bundled with tour tickets because it came after the rule change if I remember correctly, though it's possible that Joanne was. But Gaga has never released time restricted variants to induce fomo in her fans. Or put out 30+ variants. Her  releasing the Mayhem "Deluxe" didn't even include physicals, though you know Taylor would have squeezed her fans for that extra copy a piece or even released multiple variants with different covers. 

 

I truly feel like Gaga could pull the type of promo that Taylor does. Not to the effect of 4 million, but definitely to 300k-500k.  But she simply doesn't want to. She could wear things for shock factor, including re-wearing the meat dress. But I feel she's always stuck to her artistic vision for an era. And I feel you can honestly see the difference in conviction between what her label is requiring her to do in order to promote an album versus what she wants to do. Gaga strays away from repeating herself in a lot of ways, while Taylor would (and has) embrace(d) it. 

 

Taylor has a new record. Biggest second week sales decline ever!

I think MAYHEM was really the first album that there were so many variants of a vinyl and CD listed on the website. I remember Chromatica had a couple vinyls (I have the picture disc) but I assumed it was just her being creative at the time. With MAYHEM, I didn't understand all the variants to be honest. Other than that, I can only recall deluxe or anniversary editions being released. 

I totally agree that Gaga has a different approach to music than Taylor Swift, starting with the frequency in which she pus out music. You listen to producers and band members who work with her and it sounds like she is in there having visions and creative orgasms to such an overwhelming point she hyperfixates on perfecting her artistry so the music comes out EXACTLY how she needs it to. And luckily, I think she recognized that it was exhausting her and the transition from BTW to ARTPOP created a normalcy for her where she could take time between albums and explore her musical journey while not allowing it to dismantle her. One of the reasons she broke down during the BTW era (As discussed during ARTPOP) was the unhappiness she felt becoming a machine for the industry and how it made her want to quit music. 

So I totally get different styles to approach being an artist but I don't think it has anything to do with work ethic (I mean compare any 10 minutes of a TS tour compared to Gaga), and instead it has to do with your own willingness to become a machine. 

 

[Alxjcgn 624]

3 hours ago, Lucas said:

Yeah, there is a constant decline since Midnights. I like half of the songs on Midnights, around 5 songs on TTPD, and 1 song on TLOAS  She is very much uninspired, and put a priority on quantity over quality. The fact that Max Martin couldn't save TLOAS is very revealing...

TTPD is the flattest album I've ever heard. Everything from vocals to melodies to instrumentals are FLAT as hell and boring, and it's the same for the album cover, what a snoozefest. Water soup kind of album.

I remember clear as day when the album that had blank space was released and I was checking it out, and there was enough variation in the sound for it to be a good album... but I told myself this is where she is "selling out" or whatever you want to call it, and predicted her music was only going to go downhill. And mainly from watching how uninspired (to quote you) she was and if she was inspired, it was by this idea that "I'm a victim and people are mean to me". I liked the idea when she introduced Reputation because it reminded me of how artists have cheekily slid in hits at the critics within music and live performances, but that is what made it clear to me that this mindset is her schtick and I don't know..... grow up lol