Beyoncé was seen shopping in Qatar

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2 hours ago, Noctelus said:

Why is she wearing that?

Aren't headscarfs mandatory in Qatar? 

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You guys are always really weird about Arab countries, to an extreme that mirrors 19th century exoticism. This is not whataboutism, but this site is filled with distain for the US, UK transphobic policies, EU tolerance towards homophobic members but you don't see anyone boycotting those regions so the math isn't mathing here.

As someone who comes from and currently resides in the region and has some major issues with the Gulf countries and the Arab world as a whole, your remarks still seem shallow and misguided. Anyone can travel wherever they want, the wealth and culture of those countries should be experienced by whoever can afford it.

Please enoughhh with back pedaling if your elected 'representative' leaders are fine enough with erecting military bases in those countries you guys shouldn't point fingers whenever a celeb stops by 

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12 hours ago, LG2008 said:

"nosso papi Jayzinho" 

There should be an Ew reaction for this site

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8 hours ago, jacs vs looser said:

She's shopping in Qatar, one of the countries with the highest prevalence of modern-day slavery.

Then we need to criticise the country, not someone for simply shopping there. There are also normal people who live and work there, both citizens and expats.

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Very on brand

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1 hour ago, Chromanne said:

Then we need to criticise the country, not someone for simply shopping there. There are also normal people who live and work there, both citizens and expats.

We absolutely should criticise someone who makes the active choice to go there and take advantage of the services available as a result of the issues discussed.

Beyoncé, any celebrity, or any immigrant worker taking advantage of high paid corporate jobs in the oil sector etc are people actively ignoring these political issues and choosing to enrich themselves on the back of them. 

It is totally different to citizens who live there. Qatar is not a democracy, its a near absolute monarchy. And citizens lack the civil rights to safely organise and push for reform. 

I'd never criticize citizens of any nation as an entire populous because of the actions of their government domestically and internationally. But we should absolutely criticise those who make *active* choices to support bad nations for personal gain. 

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4 hours ago, onionring said:

You guys are always really weird about Arab countries, to an extreme that mirrors 19th century exoticism. This is not whataboutism, but this site is filled with distain for the US, UK transphobic policies, EU tolerance towards homophobic members but you don't see anyone boycotting those regions so the math isn't mathing here.

As someone who comes from and currently resides in the region and has some major issues with the Gulf countries and the Arab world as a whole, your remarks still seem shallow and misguided. Anyone can travel wherever they want, the wealth and culture of those countries should be experienced by whoever can afford it.

Please enoughhh with back pedaling if your elected 'representative' leaders are fine enough with erecting military bases in those countries you guys shouldn't point fingers whenever a celeb stops by 

It’s not necessarily about Arab countries, but more so about the Gulf countries and their record on labor rights. I don’t like Beyoncé rubbing shoulders with Trump’s extended family and I didn’t like her choosing to shop at a place where a new form of slavery is being practiced when her artistic career has been built on themes of Black Liberation for more than a decade now. 

I’m Middle Eastern too and it never really stopped me from acknowledging many horrendous things happening in my neighborhood. I’d die for a Gaga concert in Istanbul for instance but I’d also fear for the safety of the attendees or Gaga herself or her team because there are too many homophobes here and they’re getting scarily loud. 

The problem with the Gulf countries is that they underline the idea that “if you have enough money nobody cares” and seeing Beyoncé there made me irk because of that. Comparing that sort of situation with global democratic backsliding doesn’t make too much sense to me cuz in that case, you (a person believing in human rights) need to make an extra effort to participate in life to reclaim your space, rather than abandoning it. So yeah there’s a difference between going shopping in New York where a Trump Tower exists and visiting Abu Dhabi or Doha or Riyadh. 

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Not surprised tbh

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11 hours ago, jacs vs looser said:

She's shopping in Qatar, one of the countries with the highest prevalence of modern-day slavery.

She also shops in the US, which has the highest prison population in the world (despite having only 1/4 of the total population of some other countries). The majority of inmates are used as laborers, earning as little as 13 to 52 cents an hour, or nothing at all in some states, while generating an enormous $11 billion+ annually. That’s modern-day slavery too 

I think Jay-Z’s business dealings with the royals there are the concern, not Beyoncé shopping imo

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Of course she was

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9 hours ago, Noctelus said:

Why is she wearing that?

Protection for the gorgeousness of her face

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18 minutes ago, nexus said:

She also shops in the US, which has the highest prison population in the world (despite having only 1/4 of the total population of some other countries). The majority of inmates are used as laborers, earning as little as 13 to 52 cents an hour, or nothing at all in some states, while generating an enormous $11 billion+ annually. That’s modern-day slavery too 

I think Jay-Z’s business dealings with the royals there are the concern, not Beyoncé shopping imo

I think you're comparing apples to oranges, but lets say I agree with you, and that the situation in the US is equiparable to that of Qatar. Thing is, she is an American citizen, the US is her country where she and her family live, if she were a citizen of Qatar you could argue there is nothing to criticize. But she, with all the money that she has and the ability to buy luxury items anywhere in the world has actively chosen to go support the economy of a country that is well documented to exploit workers, that is the issue.

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Let her shop. Commentary on this thread is so excessive and contradictory...

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Mind you this thread was started by a Taylor Swift stan so I'm not surprised lol