Is Gaga's World Tour Really for the World?

[Chouchou 593]

Gaga! The world tour shouldn’t just be about North America, Europe, Japan, and Australia. Where are the rumored dates for Hong Kong, Taiwan, South America, or even South Africa? We’ve heard a lot of speculation, but nothing confirmed yet. And then, suddenly, Madison Square Garden announces that the last show of your tour will be in April. Many of us are feeling disappointed, as we had hoped for more opportunities to see you live.

We understand the complexities of the tour logistics and the financial considerations, but 9 dates for NYC? Is that really fair to the rest of us? We are your fans too, and we want the chance to meet you.

Please consider the fans from all around the world, and give us the opportunity to experience your magic live.

p/s: we're not upset! we're not upset! we're not upset!

[jacs vs looser 4,382]

You know, this made me curious and it turns out Joss Stone did a world tour where she visited pretty much every country on earth over the span of 6 years.

Of course I wouldn't expect Gaga to pull such a feature, but it does suck that it's always the same few countries and select cities all the time.

[gfer1990 13]

18 minutes ago, Chouchou said:

Gaga! The world tour shouldn’t just be about North America, Europe, Japan, and Australia. Where are the rumored dates for Hong Kong, Taiwan, South America, or even South Africa? We’ve heard a lot of speculation, but nothing confirmed yet. And then, suddenly, Madison Square Garden announces that the last show of your tour will be in April. Many of us are feeling disappointed, as we had hoped for more opportunities to see you live.

We understand the complexities of the tour logistics and the financial considerations, but 9 dates for NYC? Is that really fair to the rest of us? We are your fans too, and we want the chance to meet you.

Please consider the fans from all around the world, and give us the opportunity to experience your magic live.

p/s: we're not upset! we're not upset! we're not upset!

there is a general feeling among fans outside the US and Europe, especially among Latin Americans, that she treats them differently, not only because of the scarcity of concerts but also because of the lack of interaction.

[Bronco 12,278]

Honestly world tours have almost always been Western Europe & Coastal America. With some bigger tours hitting 1 or 2 countries elsewhere. 

Its partly a result of how global politics were until the turn of the 21st century, partly just aversion to touring by pop acts primarily.

Rock tours have always been quite good at getting around though.

[lilboyblue 5,640]

It really is frustrating because demand is 100% there, and Asian and LatAm monsters are some of the most loyal fans she has. Oh well...

 

[Creyk 17,852]

You do know that for most pop stars, a world tour means north america + western europe, right? That is where they make the most money. That is why it was a big deal that Jennifer Lopez went to Kazakhstan earlier this year, for example. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity for those people. 

[faysalaaa 4,801]

Well every time an artist tries visiting the Middle East, Americans attack and cancel the artist. Gaga is still being cancelled today for going to Israel a decade ago. People need to understand these artists are performing for their fans, not the government, and the American government also does horrible things, does that mean artists should cancel their tours in America?

Edited yesterday at 09:22 PM by faysalaaa

[Monstermilo 4,723]

i think she shouldve done stadiums dates in 87 cities instead of arena shows in only certain cities..... 

give her 5 days in between shows too to ensure she gets proper rest and to decrease chances of her fibro flaring up

[RAMROD 110,087]

Rumors stays rumors until it is announced.

Also, the way how it works usually for countries without Livenation available locally, they will put the tour on the market and see if any local promoters will bite. For heavyweights like Gaga, it will not be cheap. From the price to get to a country, from the flights, the hotels, the foods that they had to feed her and her entourage and dancers, and of course the stages and music instruments. Not to mention the working visa permits. It is complicated and sometimes some rumors show just fell through during negotiation phase, cos maybe the promoter backed out from all the $$$ they can't afford, the difficulty securing the visa and permits, or sometimes the artist is the one backing out, cos the available dates they can spare is not available cos either the venues are already booked, or they just think the market is not the part they consider at that point, etc.

Like, I am guessing her team and livenation most likely offering Asian countries cos they will have Australian leg. It is sensible cos they can save some money doing that since distance is shorter than flying the stages from US or Europe directly to Asian countries. Why only Japan got the dates? Well, maybe other countries just can't afford it? Especially in this economy we are now. Like, even if the local promoters brought her to their countries, how many people can afford super high price tags? Even fans in Europe, Canada, and USA, who are considered more comfortable financially, are complaining about the abnormally high price tags this time around. 

People like Gaga is super busy, we may not see much, but when it was quiet she not just sleeping all day, like we don't even know she was filming for DISEASE and ABRACADABRA until it's actually announced. We don't know what kind of schedule she have succeeding this tour next year. She might have planned something else then. Maybe she already securing another movie role, or doing other artistic projects, we/ll never know until we do. So it's not like she can let anyone pick the dates for her to come touring at their zone.

So I don't think she treats her fans differently based on where they came from. Like, if you know Gaga, she won't ever do that. We are talking about a woman who felt heartbroken and cried when she can't finished her show in its entirety because of weather, or because injury, or her illness flares up. Come on now, get a grip!

Edited 23 hours ago by RAMROD

[Taumaturg0 646]

3 hours ago, Bronco said:

Honestly world tours have almost always been Western Europe & Coastal America. With some bigger tours hitting 1 or 2 countries elsewhere. 

I'm gonna say no, pop acts tend to tour at least a couple countries in South America too, specially these last couple years (look at Taylor, Dua, Katy, Kylie, etc.)

Edited 23 hours ago by Taumaturg0

[Taumaturg0 646]

1 hour ago, RAMROD said:

Rumors stays rumors until it is announced.

Also, the way how it works usually for countries without Livenation available locally, they will put the tour on the market and see if any local promoters will bite.

By that logic, she should tour Argentina in South America since the majority of  DF entertainment (biggest concert production company here ) is owned by Live Nation. The same is true for Chile and Brazil since they own concert promoters there too.

At some point we have to face the truth, she chooses not to tour globally 

Edited 22 hours ago by Taumaturg0

[gfer1990 13]

36 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Rumors stays rumors until it is announced.

Also, the way how it works usually for countries without Livenation available locally, they will put the tour on the market and see if any local promoters will bite. For heavyweights like Gaga, it will not be cheap. From the price to get to a country, from the flights, the hotels, the foods that they had to feed her and her entourage and dancers, and of course the stages and music instruments. Not to mention the working visa permits. It is complicated and sometimes some rumors show just fell through during negotiation phase, cos maybe the promoter backed out from all the $$$ they can't afford, the difficulty securing the visa and permits, or sometimes the artist is the one backing out, cos the available dates they can spare is not available cos either the venues are already booked, or they just think the market is not the part they consider at that point, etc.

Like, I am guessing her team and livenation most likely offering Asian countries cos they will have Australian leg. It is sensible cos they can save some money doing that since distance is shorter than flying the stages from US or Europe directly to Asian countries. Why only Japan got the dates? Well, maybe other countries just can't afford it? Especially in this economy we are now. Like, even if the local promoters brought her to their countries, how many people can afford super high price tags? Even fans in Europe, Canada, and USA, who are considered more comfortable financially, are complaining about the abnormally high price tags this time around. 

People like Gaga is super busy, we may not see much, but when it was quiet she not just sleeping all day, like we don't even know she was filming for DISEASE and ABRACADABRA until it's actually announced. We don't know what kind of schedule she have succeeding this tour next year. She might have planned something else then. Maybe she already securing another movie role, or doing other artistic projects, we/ll never know until we do. So it's not like she can let anyone pick the dates for her to come touring at their zone.

So I don't think she treats her fans differently based on where they came from. Like, if you know Gaga, she won't ever do that. We are talking about a woman who felt heartbroken and cried when she can't finished her show in its entirety because of weather, or because injury, or her illness flares up. Come on now, get a grip!

 in fact, there is a general feeling, especially among Latin American fans, that they are treated differently, not only because of the scarcity of concerts, but also because of her interactions with fans in the global North. For example, many Brazilian fans were upset that when she came in May, she didn't even come out on the balcony to interact with them, unlike what she does in the US, Europe, or Asia.

[Taumaturg0 646]

5 minutes ago, gfer1990 said:

 in fact, there is a general feeling, especially among Latin American fans, that they are treated differently, not only because of the scarcity of concerts, but also because of her interactions with fans in the global North. For example, many Brazilian fans were upset that when she came in May, she didn't even come out on the balcony to interact with them, unlike what she does in the US, Europe, or Asia.

At least she performed in Brazil, and had RiR booked before her fybro flare up. She hasn't acknowledged the rest of SA since the BTWB

Edited 23 hours ago by Taumaturg0

[gfer1990 13]

Just now, Taumaturg0 said:

At least she performed in Brazil. She hasn't acknowledged the rest of SA since the BTWB

That's exactly why I say that fans in the global south complain about the difference in treatment. The comparison I make is how unfair it is, for example, to have only nine shows and a single city like New York, while Brazil waited more than ten years for a single show, or South Africa, which hasn't seen her since the BTWB.
I sincerely believe that your information about South Africa confirms my point about the difference in treatment between fans from the global North and the global South.

[MountainMonster 855]

The girl can’t please everyone, and she doesn’t owe it to anyone. All this tour stuff is so absurd to me. She could be like Miley and not tour at all. She could be like Ariana and only do the US and the very few EU countries she’s going to. The prices are expensive, yes. Can you imagine the demand if the prices were cheaper? Even less of a chance you’d get tickets.