Any AI girlie to help with GOE MV?

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Here's another anti-AI post 

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7 hours ago, Quentin said:

AI only "sees" art. Is seeing stealing? I don't think so... At all times humans got inspired by art that isn't theirs. But there's something interesting about AI: we are in the age of neural engines: AI, once it has processed informations that are used to train it, creates something different, and also unique: it has learnt how to generate, it's completely new material, there's no link between the processed work and the created work.

it steals, people have seen assets of their work in AI generated content

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7 hours ago, Quentin said:

AI only "sees" art. Is seeing stealing? I don't think so... At all times humans got inspired by art that isn't theirs. But there's something interesting about AI: we are in the age of neural engines: AI, once it has processed informations that are used to train it, creates something different, and also unique: it has learnt how to generate, it's completely new material, there's no link between the processed work and the created work.

This is just flat out wrong - genai doesn't 'see', it doesn't get 'inspired', it doesn't 'learn' in a way people learn, it's not sentient, it doesn't think, it's an algorythm that compresses and stores immense amounts of STOLEN data which is why most prominent companies are currently getting sued. A bunch of very wealthy people have spent a lot of time and money trying to convince public at large that that is not the case, and you bought into it, congrats.

The verdicts cannot start coming in soon enough - sick of this bs apologia for people who were already well off, but decided what they had was not enough, so they chose to decimate an industry... And you keep whiteknighting for them - gross.

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9 hours ago, llemesm said:

using AI to make a harmless fan-made video is ‘part of the problem’? Cool. Guess creative freedom and common sense are now crimes.

AI and creative freedom are polar opposites ma'am 

That's like ordering takeout and calling yourself a chef because you arranged the plate

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9 hours ago, metalpsi said:

omfg the MAGA level reactions here 

think logically for a sec, will we get a video any other way? will any artist sit down and do it? the only goal is personal pleasure of seeing a GOE video. 

 

y'all just bandwagoning this "ai bad" bs to fit in socially, it's not even gonna hurt anyone. plus, gaga's already on all the ai repositories since you can just say "lady gaga" and it knows what to create, same with swift etc. 

It comes down to principles though, some people just really don't want to support the usage of a tool that actively kills the creative arts.

That and the actual appeal of AI is very slim imo. It looks off and uncanny most of the time. 

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8 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said:

This is just flat out wrong - genai doesn't 'see', it doesn't get 'inspired', it doesn't 'learn' in a way people learn, it's not sentient, it doesn't think, it's an algorythm that compresses and stores immense amounts of STOLEN data which is why most prominent companies are currently getting sued. A bunch of very wealthy people have spent a lot of time and money trying to convince public at large that that is not the case, and you bought into it, congrats.

The verdicts cannot start coming in soon enough - sick of this bs apologia for people who were already well off, but decided what they had was not enough, so they chose to decimate an industry... And you keep whiteknighting for them - gross.

I'm sorry to say, but that argument doesn't really hold water if we look at our own history, technology evolves and jobs that once existed cease to exist, one example are the wireless operators, the same operators the once worked in ships like the titanic, they were phased out for machines eventually.

Hell, entire industries can cease to exist, and I can piggy back from the titanic comment, before the explosion of air travel after WW2 the world was only connected by ocean liners, if you wanted to travel the world, your only option were ocean liners, it was a huge market that got replaced almost overnight by superior technology (air travel).

 

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I will show this thread to my class, as an example of how lefties, semi lefties, moderates, fiscal liberals, semi liberals engage with each other 

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52 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

I'm sorry to say, but that argument doesn't really hold water if we look at our own history, technology evolves and jobs that once existed cease to exist, one example are the wireless operators, the same operators the once worked in ships like the titanic, they were phased out for machines eventually.

Hell, entire industries can cease to exist, and I can piggy back from the titanic comment, before the explosion of air travel after WW2 the world was only connected by ocean liners, if you wanted to travel the world, your only option were ocean liners, it was a huge market that got replaced almost overnight by superior technology (air travel).

 

but this is superior technology, i'm yet to see any generated AI work that's superior to anything made by a person

so many basic design jobs are given to AI and it just produces something... off and void of any details

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6 minutes ago, nATAH said:

but this is superior technology, i'm yet to see any generated AI work that's superior to anything made by a person

so many basic design jobs are given to AI and it just produces something... off and void of any details

What we have right now is honestly rudimentary and I'd agree a good artist is still far above what any AI can create, I never use AI generated art though.

But I'm looking at the bigger picture, AI goes far above art generation, we are talking research into things like cancer, it could be the ultimate heirloom for the human race if not misused, hell, like I said before I even believe our race will most likely go extinct if we don't have a higher intelligence guiding us, not the glorified chat bots we have right now, but true AGI intelligence.

But bringing back the convo to art/music, and this might seems preposterous, but soon enough people will be touched and impressed by AI art/AI music , most people will find it beautiful and defend it to death (much like we do with gaga ), and this will happen, its in the human nature, we crave technology, it's the main reason the human race is here today:

The technology we craved in ancient times were rocks and spears, 'cause that allowed us to survive the big predators, fast forward millennia the egyptians were obsessed with technology, we have many documents corroborating this, hell, they made the freaking pyramids, their use of technology is what allowed them to build the epic civilization they had. The same can be same for the romans and all the dominant periods on human history, you get my point.

Hell, even recently, in WW2, our pursuit of technology is what allowed us to end the bloodiest war in human history, we literally harnessed the power of a star.

AI is the next step on this ladder of pursuit and I'd argue this pursuit can never be stopped or we will be doomed as a race, for better or worse, this is where humanity is headed.

And I understand what I'm suggesting presents challenges like job displacement but if we look at our history, we have many such examples, we are a nanosecond in our own history.

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And adding to my argument of humans craving technology, the last 100 years are a prime example, we went from sending letters to send instant messages (Telegraphy), we went from traveling weeks by sea to traveling hours by air, we started using computers and then we connected everything with the internet, we crave the next iphone, we crave faster internet speeds, we crave higher quality and I could go on and on and on.

We have this unrelenting pursuit of technology and most people don't even realize it's a core of the human race.

And maybe, just maybe this unrelenting pursuit is what makes us unique in this universe and ultimately be the key to solve the fermi paradox, and yes, in this case we are the aliens, cause that's the only way the human race will ever survive.

Edited 21 hours ago by lastpopicon

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even if u don’t wanna take a stance on the usage of AI it’s the idea that you feel the need to have access to such art without the artists consent to it

 

let an artist make something of their work before u feel the need to step in and take over, trust me we all want a new mv 

 

but this isn’t the way 

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The only use of AI I approve of is @River making a "Vaseline Dion" meme 

That and the random admin functions you can quickly ask it to do

But all the fake stuff, especially fake stuff presented as reality (which the internet is now LITTERED WITH).

I cannot stand for it!!!!

Edited 21 hours ago by dynamite

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2 hours ago, Sepsami said:

AI and creative freedom are polar opposites ma'am 

That's like ordering takeout and calling yourself a chef because you arranged the plate

So the work of VFX and CGI artists isn’t real because they didn’t use traditional paint? Wow… by that logic, directors, editors, and musicians who use digital tools aren’t creating either. Creativity isn’t about the medium, it’s about the vision and skill behind it.

Sad. 

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1 minute ago, llemesm said:

So the work of VFX and CGI artists isn’t real because they didn’t use traditional paint? Wow… by that logic, directors, editors, and musicians who use digital tools aren’t creating either. Creativity isn’t about the medium, it’s about the vision and skill behind it.

Sad. 

And what's the skill you're using with AI? Writing how badass you want something to look? 'cause you still aint making the visual yourself, AI is stealing from other people's art to create yours.

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5 minutes ago, llemesm said:

So the work of VFX and CGI artists isn’t real because they didn’t use traditional paint? Wow… by that logic, directors, editors, and musicians who use digital tools aren’t creating either. Creativity isn’t about the medium, it’s about the vision and skill behind it.

Sad. 

Putting a prompt into a machine isn't the same thing as creating something digitally 

At all