Why didn’t Gaga hit top 10 with Abra but Chappell and Sabrina do so easily

[Mr Oak 7,656]

Who cares about US charts. Abra's top 5 worldwide 

[JustJames 968]

10 hours ago, Nagini said:

I don't know, it is what it is. Radio barely picked up the song even after it was Top 10 Global Spotify for the first few weeks... and by the time it did the song was already not charting on Spotify. Dance music is also just not popular right now and Sabrina/Chappell songs are just more relatable. I think she would have had more success with Garden of Eden and even more with VIY.

Top 10 on Pop + HAC - 1st solo song to achieve the former in 12 years - isn’t “barely picking up the song.”

Sabrina and Chappell are 10+ years younger than Gaga, coming off their first smash eras, with growing fanbases born in the streaming era. It’s like asking why “Skin” or “Red Wine Supernova” didn’t perform as well as “Born This Way.” Totally different generation of artists at different stages. 

Nothing in the last 12 years indicates radio or streaming audiences were going to accept GOE as well as they did Abra, and VIY would’ve alienated fans awaiting an uptempo single, while failing to generate the same GP buzz Abra did with “Gaga is back” and “return of recession pop.”

10 hours ago, TSUNAMI said:

US is not world.

above mentioned acts are very local 

Right. Because it’s literally the US Hot 100.

10 hours ago, monstertoronto said:

Ya. Or released the song on Friday, and then still released the video at the Grammys. The video still would have gotten hype. A performance too would have been the best. 

Or, instead of reaching #1 on US Spotify, dominating social media discourse, building hype for MAYHEM, and driving Abra to 5mo on BB100, it could’ve grabbed a #10 and faded; if so, fans would be criticizing its “lack of longevity” / demanding it be asterisked for being performed (which was never going to happen during the fires).

Pairing the Bruno performance with Abra video was genius and kept her from looking insensitive. Regardless, its US Chart run was great: first solo Pop Radio top 10 since Applause, first solo song to hit 20 weeks / go recurrent since Million Reasons, etc. 

Edited yesterday at 02:51 PM by JustJames

[asfittingasmcqueen 2,007]

It reminds me of Britney's situation on the Hot 100

Songs like Oops I Did it Again (#9), Toxic (#9) or I'm a Slave 4 U (#27) are some of her most memorable global hits, yet their peaks in the US don't reflect that. 

The Hot 100 is not indicative of a song's overall success. Abracadabra (#13), Judas (#10) and even  Bloody Mary and ARUTW (both peaking at #41) are arguably bigger and more impactful than singles like Stupid Love (which peaked higher)

Edited yesterday at 04:02 PM by asfittingasmcqueen

[monstertoronto 10,159]

3 hours ago, asfittingasmcqueen said:

It reminds me of Britney's situation on the Hot 100

Songs like Oops I Did it Again (#9), Toxic (#9) or I'm a Slave 4 U (#27) are some of her most memorable global hits, yet their peaks in the US don't reflect that. 

The Hot 100 is not indicative of a song's overall success. Abracadabra (#13), Judas (#10) and even  Bloody Mary and ARUTW (both peaking at #41) are arguably bigger and more impactful than singles like Stupid Love (which peaked higher)

That’s ao true. But everyone refers to chart positions when they talk about songs success as it feels like the definitive metric. Everyone wants a high number of  #1s. I did not realize that Toxic and oops didn’t hit #1. Im shook that slave wasn’t even top 20! 

[LilyLark 10,104]

She didn't have a full tracking week & physicals, and younger artists generally have an easier time. Also, the point system was absolutely brutal when Abra debuted....if it had debuted with the same amount a few months later it would have easily been in the top 5. 

Lastly, as others pointed out, dance pop music is just not that popular in the US anymore. Abra did extremely well outside of the US (was highly ranked on Spotify for quite a long time). Frankly, I can't even think of the last dance pop single that was top 5. Break my Soul, maybe, which was roughly three years ago. Dua's Barbie song dropped two years ago. 

A great example of this is Dua. Dua does extremely well outside of the US, but her last album in the US debuted with less than 100k. Her music is distinctly more disco/dance than Chappell, Olivia, and Sabrina. Gaga's kind of in the same boat. The type of music that's doing really right now is that sort of alternative pop a la Chappell's new stuff (The Subway), Billie, and Taylor or straight up bubble gum meets country pop (Sabrina). 

[monstertoronto 10,159]

I’m assuming the new Taylor album will be dance pop and I’m guessing she’ll debut at number 1 tho. 

[Madame Goo Goo 3,865]

16 hours ago, monstertoronto said:

This makes so much sense. Why didn’t they release physicals??

My theory is that they just couldn’t get them ready in time. Maybe things were too booked up. In order for the physicals to count for the chart they have to ship during the week they count for. Also Gar has talked a lot about sustainability and reusing this era and maybe she thought 7inch novelty singles for the sole purpose of boosting sales was wasteful. 

[PartySick 160,204]

She had more competition at the time. It's just that simple.

Reason #73823 why charts are stupid and not a metric that reflects quality or even popularity  

[insight 2,430]

because monsters aren't swifties

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,443]

14 hours ago, nATAH said:

to avoid leaks, is my guess

If they had pressed the vinyls/CDs on Sunday realease, they could’ve been shipped by the following Friday in the US and counted for the BBH100 points

Edited yesterday at 09:51 PM by AVeryGagaHolyDick

[chathonnete 760]

Because we don't care anymore about us shitty taste

[Controversiaga 11,215]

Haven’t you heard? Gaga can’t get a solo hit anymore 

[HeAteMyh3art 1,063]

1 minute ago, Controversiaga said:

Haven’t you heard? Gaga can’t get a solo hit anymore 

abracaflopga 
I wonder what those kinds of people will be doing in the future, maybe still screaming how that one lady with some of the biggest hits of all time cant sell anymore 

[PartySick 160,204]

52 minutes ago, Controversiaga said:

Haven’t you heard? Gaga can’t get a solo hit anymore 

I don't think the narrative is a "solo hit", it's a "solo #1"...which is something she hasn't had in 14 years  

But if I may remind the class: 

1 hour ago, PartySick said:

charts are stupid and not a metric that reflects quality or even popularity

[monstertoronto 10,159]

4 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I don't think the narrative is a "solo hit", it's a "solo #1"...which is something she hasn't had in 14 years  

But if I may remind the class: 

I wish I didn’t care about the charts but I just do.