Official Charts Thread

[andy232000 12,153]

4 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

Sure, if we look in retrospect we can find good times to release new singles, ViY after copacabana, HBDUWM when the summer was starting etc.

But don't think GoE or zombieboy or any other album track from MAYHEM would do better commercially if it released when TDD did  

That's ridiculous, they are 7 old month songs doing 300k daily streams at best, no promo in this world could make them reach +3M daily streams.

Lets stop with what if's, the what if's are all flops. 

Oh absolutely I totally agree. If we’re talking at this moment in time, nothing would’ve stuck. It would’ve just been cool at most for the fans. 

I was talking more about putting a new song or even TDD too just with a more pop-edm leaning sound. I was commenting based on that idea, not releasing an album track that’s been out for 7-months now. I just mentioned the album tracks cause you asked what I had in mind, but if It was me who had to decide what to put out NOW, I would’ve picked a new song with a different sound. 

[lastpopicon 36,897]

Just now, andy232000 said:

Oh absolutely I totally agree. If we’re talking at this moment in time, nothing would’ve stuck. It would’ve just been cool at most for the fans. 

I was talking more about putting a new song or even TDD too just with a more pop-edm leaning sound. I was commenting based on that idea, not releasing an album track that’s been out for 7-months now. I just mentioned the album tracks cause you asked what I had in mind, but if It was me who had to decide what to put out NOW, I would’ve picked a new song with a different sound. 

But then you'd be here saying how X song flopped even harder, do you see the problem I have with this?

At least this way we get a decent wordwide top 10 hit, a top 40 on America, a potential top 10 in the UK and it's charting very well in Europe (making a list of all positions).

And having this convo with you is bizzare tbh, because we know she campaigning for the grammies, we want the bling this time.

[DesertWolf 49,239]

Australian radio chart

#11 (=) The Dead Dance *2nd week at peak*
588 spins (+33) 1184 total spins

#20 (-2) How Bad Do U Want Me *peaked at #7*
417 spins (-15) 10647 total spins

NZ radio chart

#23 (NE) The Dead Dance
370 spins (+255) 465 total spins

[n1kos 5,285]

Other girls would wish their single doing 2m daily streams. So chill guys , the song is doing pretty well. Don’t be afraid if twitter says “no solo hit since 2011”. We know all the truth , so be cool 😎 

[TEANUS 15,437]

Garden of Eden is/was waiting to become a staple gay and girl hit in the clubs and a radio earworm IMO

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[andy232000 12,153]

31 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

But then you'd be here saying how X song flopped even harder, do you see the problem I have with this?

At least this way we get a decent wordwide top 10 hit, a top 40 on America, a potential top 10 in the UK and it's charting very well in Europe (making a list of all positions).

And having this convo with you is bizzare tbh, because we know she campaigning for the grammies, we want the bling this time.

What? I just said that this song is starting to show signs that it’s not going to smash, but that I personally found it useful for Gaga and her team moving forward cause now they know how a radio-friendly punk pop songs perform for her, and that maybe knowing that, can help make a better single choice when it comes back to that (for a deluxe, new album, etc). I think that with the state of music consumption today, if a generic song doesn’t do better than a classical Gaga sound, then it might be better to stick to the classic Gaga sound that fans will eat up, and in that scenario at least if the song flops with the GP the fans might keep it alive in the lower tier of “success” when it comes to commercial success. And if not, at least the core fan base will still love it.

I don’t see how you landed in “But then you'd be here saying how X song flopped even harder” or “she’s campaigning for Grammys”. Sorry I lost the thread there. TDD is serving her Grammy campaign for sure but that’s a totally different conversation that I never introduced in my previous responses.

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[lastpopicon 36,897]

2 minutes ago, andy232000 said:

I don’t see how you landed in “But then you'd be here saying how X song flopped even harder” or “she’s campaigning for Grammys”. Sorry I lost the thread there. TDD is serving her Grammy campaign for sure but that’s a totally different conversation that I never introduced in my previous responses.

You started with saying:

1 hour ago, andy232000 said:

yeah, it’s starting to look like it’s over. Even if it’s still stable and not dropping harshly, we don’t know how bad the weekend drop will be and if it will recover. Its just not showing signs of sticking with anyone sadly. Fans are not too enthusiastic about it and the GP hasn’t really picked it up either. 

All in all, I think this was a great test for Gaga and her team to know what type of singles to choose going forward. 

53 minutes ago, andy232000 said:

That’s also another thing, timing and optics are very significant. But I feel those two picks would probably have more of a core-fan support that would at least sustain the song or maybe not have it drop so brutally. I do agree that tracks like Zombieboy would not be better than TDD cause those are too fan-based. I genuinely thought that Don’t Call Tonight or a sound like that might’ve been good with the GP, and then TDD dropped, and now it seems like it’s not moving the needle either, which is why I feel like GOE would’ve been the best “moment” specially for gay culture. 

I'm sorry but it really seems you are shading TDD and suggesting others would have bigger sucess.

And it's not over 

[DesertWolf 49,239]

Sometimes I wish Gaga had a more dedicated and loyal fanbase.  Those #1s are waiting to be snatched, can't believe she can sell all those tickets for her tour but then all those who are attenting can't even stream her latest singles at least once a day 

TDD has time to shine, it's been out for less than two weeks and a half, come on, some of y'all acting like it's out of the Spotify top 200  even katycats haven't given up on their floppy era yet... 

Anyways, thankful for the whole MAYHEM era so far and glad to see there are more fans that will support any single, no matter if it charts high or not.  TDD #1 on my chart for the rest of the year, f*ck Billboard and their fraud points system 

[DesertWolf 49,239]

46M views, TDD pushed it a bit, hope it also gets a small push with Halloween too  

 

[Glomer 686]

28 minutes ago, DesertWolf said:

Sometimes I wish Gaga had a more dedicated and loyal fanbase.  Those #1s are waiting to be snatched, can't believe she can sell all those tickets for her tour but then all those who are attenting can't even stream her latest singles at least once a day 

Most of us are not teens anymore 

And that's why TDD/Wednesday/TikTok are so important rn if they want to keep her music popular among younger generations... She's come a long way in the past couple of years. She might not be the kid's number 1 (which I don't think it's her goal, since that would take a lot of artistic sacrifices), but she found a cool and sizeable niche within that demographic by being herself and made it "cool" to like her again... and who knows what the future holds.

Anyway, we should all be supporting her decisions 'cause she gave/is giving us everything with MAYHEM and this masterpiece of an album will always be there regardless if our favorite songs were chosen as singles or not.

[lastpopicon 36,897]

people act so entitled, the horrors of her trying to make a trend on Tiktok  And then building this narrative that the song is bad, literally her own fans starting this... she should make ballad albums for the rest of her life, I hope LG8 is FULL of DWAS's, then her "fans" won't complain about the lack of commercial sucess, but the commercial success won't be because of this fanbase, that's for sureeeeeee. 

And don't get me started with people saying that TDD isn't worthy of being MAYHEM, it was literally done in the MAYHEM sessions.. Entitled AND ungrateful 

[Scarlet Witch 1,646]

Need TDD to peak quickly before tayble drops her rotten bomb on the charts

[Starmie25 19,198]

1 hour ago, lastpopicon said:

literally her own fans starting this...

This.

If you don't like the song, ok fair. But why the need to constantly downplay the track and her artistic integrity. Agh sometimes her core fans piss me off like in here. It's always nitpicking this or that. 🙄

 

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[andy232000 12,153]

4 hours ago, lastpopicon said:

You started with saying:

I'm sorry but it really seems you are shading TDD and suggesting others would have bigger sucess.

And it's not over 

Well, first of all your’e exaggerating my words because it’s just text. I didn’t mean for it to sound super shady.
 

Secondly, you can’t deny that as of now it’s not showing signs of being a decent sized hit. It’s stable now but it’s not recovering. What’s the update going to look like this weekend after the Saturday and Sunday drop? Do you not think it will drop below 1.5M when it’s all said and done? What’s the chance of it recovering next week if it’s not happening this week? Sorry but I think expecting TDD to climb back to 3M right now is too optimistic. If it’s pulling over 1M in a month that would be best case scenario. Its not over but I wouldn’t confidently say its about to start either. 

And again, I said this going FORWARD. I didn’t say any other song from mayhem would’ve been better. I said FORWARD as in next release wether that is a deluxe with extra songs, or LG8, or whatever Gaga wants to put out. You assumed I meant any of the fan gave mayhem tracks and quite literally that is not what I meant. I meant it as AB test. Abra was A, TDD was B. She now has the experience of putting out two very different types of song with similar promotion in the same album cycle. Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough, but you too assumed a bit there

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[Louvre 3,800]

There aint much going on on the charts rn lets start getting messy