DWAS passes Shallow

[PartySick 159,822]

5 hours ago, NUTELLA said:

Shallow haters rejoice!

Gaga ft. Bradley in the main song from her breakout acting role >>>>> Bruno ft. Gaga in Bruno's 37491927492nd overly cheesey love song  

Shallow will always be that girl! 

[NUTELLA 8,609]

13 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Gaga ft. Bradley in the main song from her breakout acting role >>>>> Bruno ft. Gaga in Bruno's 37491927492nd overly cheesey love song  

Shallow will always be that girl! 

LM since 08, but I say with my chest that Shallow is one of the most annoying (& overrated) songs of all time.

Belly flop through the surface

Edited Monday at 08:17 AM by NUTELLA

[SHALLOW 16,382]

16 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Gaga ft. Bradley in the main song from her breakout acting role >>>>> Bruno ft. Gaga in Bruno's 37491927492nd overly cheesey love song  

Shallow will always be that girl! 

Thank's 

[PartySick 159,822]

13 minutes ago, NUTELLA said:

LM since 08, but I say with my chest that Shallow is one of the most annoying (& overrated) songs of all time.

Belly flop through the surface

You're off the deep end

[HeAteMyh3art 789]

Mfs gonna say Bruno carried and turn a blind eye to Fat, Juicy and Wet. Keep malding 

[FreedomInTheMusic 587]

9 hours ago, Economy said:

Pretty sure I was one of those skeptical ppl ngl, glad to be proven wrong tho 

 

Although I think was what I said was that it was unlikely shed have another #1 solo hit. I did not think more major hits were impossible with the right collabs and DWAS is definitely a major name collab

 

That said, even Abracadabra is probably a bigger global hit than I imagined shed likely get solo going forward back in 2018/2019 so again, glad to be wrong. I under estimated her longevity and ability to career resurge

 

I really thought top 20 moderate hits type of thing is the most shed achieve going forward. Although Abra did not go top 10 in Hot 100, Globally it was a smash and it had a lot of longevity  even in hot 100 so it was as big of a hit as many low top 10s in hot 100 so in that context I will still count it as a solo hit (even in USA)

 

I truly cannot remember anyone talking about the concept of a “solo hit” before Shallow. Feels like a new goal post made just for Ga

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7 minutes ago, FreedomInTheMusic said:

I truly cannot remember anyone talking about the concept of a “solo hit” before Shallow. Feels like a new goal post made just for Ga

I think it's 'cause this fanbase itself became obsessed with Gaga having hits.

ARTPOP came and lowkey flopped (by her standards), then she moved on to Cheek to Cheek and Joanne which did ok but not spectacular on the charts. So Monsters kinda took the stance of "she may not have hits but she has heart and that's what really counts".

That's where I am still  

Of course, then ASIB happened, she repeaked, Shallow obliterated, ARUTW was big too, Chromatica lagged behind ASIB but Stupid Love went to the top 10 and Rain on Me got her another #1. That tour was her most profitable (I think).

Then DWAS and Mayhem happened and she had like her third repeak in half a decade so now Monsters are obsessed with the charts and even Gaga is making chart obsessive moves.

DWAS was added to Mayhem purely because it was a hit and in spite of the fact that she is CLEARLY the featured artist (she has all of two lines without Bruno), and it still comprises like 70% of that album's streams with the next biggest song being Abracadabra, which missed the top 10 by a few spots (again, I think, I don't follow the charts that closely).

Gaga herself hasn't had a #1 without someone else's name on the track since 2011 and know what I say to that?

WHO CARES

Whatever happened to #MusicNotTheBling  

#1's are overrated anyway. Abracadabra hit a higher peak in pure streams/sales than most songs that've hit the top 5 in the last few weeks/months, the only thing it's missing is the actual chart position, which is such a stupid thing to be concerned about 'cause once a song gets into the top 40 it seems to be entirely based on luck to get a higher spot.

So yeah, it generally takes another big name or a smash film (in Shallow's case) to get Gaga to that #1 spot. But literally why does anyone care 

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1 minute ago, PartySick said:

I think it's 'cause this fanbase itself became obsessed with Gaga having hits.

ARTPOP came and lowkey flopped (by her standards), then she moved on to Cheek to Cheek and Joanne which did ok but not spectacular on the charts. So Monsters kinda took the stance of "she may not have hits but she has heart and that's what really counts".

That's where I am still  

Of course, then ASIB happened, she repeaked, Shallow obliterated, ARUTW was big too, Chromatica lagged behind ASIB but Stupid Love went to the top 10 and Rain on Me got her another #1. That tour was her most profitable (I think).

Then DWAS and Mayhem happened and she had like her third repeak in half a decade so now Monsters are obsessed with the charts and even Gaga is making chart obsessive moves.

DWAS was added to Mayhem purely because it was a hit and in spite of the fact that she is CLEARLY the featured artist (she has all of two lines without Bruno), and it still comprises like 70% of that album's streams with the next biggest song being Abracadabra, which missed the top 10 by a few spots (again, I think, I don't follow the charts that closely).

Gaga herself hasn't had a #1 without someone else's name on the track since 2011 and know what I say to that?

WHO CARES

Whatever happened to #MusicNotTheBling  

#1's are overrated anyway. Abracadabra hit a higher peak in pure streams/sales than most songs that've hit the top 5 in the last few weeks/months, the only thing it's missing is the actual chart position, which is such a stupid thing to be concerned about 'cause once a song gets into the top 40 it seems to be entirely based on luck to get a higher spot.

So yeah, it generally takes another big name or a smash film (in Shallow's case) to get Gaga to that #1 spot. But literally why does anyone care 

Yeah I think you’re probably spot on. Doesn’t help that all pop music stans use chart metrics as a weapon against one another. I’ll never get it, but that’s just me. Abra (or any other song for that matter) not going to no 1 doesn’t take a single ounce of enjoyment away from me. 
 

I know many of us became fans of Gaga when she was the biggest star on Earth, and we understandably have a lot of nostalgia for those days. But what many of us misunderstand is that it wasn’t her chart success that made her so exciting during her 1st imperial phase. It was the fact that she was bold, creative, and daring — all traits that still remain to this day. She just has one of those artistic souls, and I don’t see that ever changing thankfully. 

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16 minutes ago, PartySick said:

But literally why does anyone care 

Legacy and further impact legendary status

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4 minutes ago, Economy said:

Legacy and further impact legendary status

I think streaming has made charts worthless tbh  

When everyone's relying on luck, algorithms, spamming social media, and paying the right people for promotion, or even straight up buying/farming streams, "hits" don't really matter anymore

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7 minutes ago, Economy said:

Legacy and further impact legendary status

IMO Gaga made it to legend status years ago, and it’s rock solid. No amount of stan mudslinging will ever discredit Gaga’s achievements, and she has nothing left to prove. She’s at a level that few people ever hit, and once you’re there, you’ll likely stay there forever. 

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3 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I think streaming has made charts worthless tbh  

When everyone's relying on luck, algorithms, spamming social media, and paying the right people for promotion, or even straight up buying/farming streams, "hits" don't really matter anymore

exactly. half the songs that get big are only so bc they're used in reels lmfao

[Ziggy 11,747]

4 minutes ago, FreedomInTheMusic said:

IMO Gaga made it to legend status years ago, and it’s rock solid. No amount of stan mudslinging will ever discredit Gaga’s achievements, and she has nothing left to prove. She’s at a level that few people ever hit, and once you’re there, you’ll likely stay there forever. 

yeah she isn't going anywhere. You can tell by how people talk about her now in the press. The tone is one of a certain reverence for what genuinely has been a long and pretty storied career so far. That she was able to do what she did with Mayhem and Abracadabra *really* secured that imo. Had she basically coasted on mid-performing but solid albums after chromatica and Joanne I think it might be another story but even just this one album has put a nice bow on her legacy and really let her lay real claim to huge industry veteran if not quite yet legend just by the fact that she's not even 40 yet and i think to be a legend you have to at least by in your 40s idk. arbitrary but i stand by it 

Edited Monday at 01:26 PM by Ziggy

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3 minutes ago, FreedomInTheMusic said:

IMO Gaga made it to legend status years ago, and it’s rock solid. No amount of stan mudslinging will ever discredit Gaga’s achievements, and she has nothing left to prove. She’s at a level that few people ever hit, and once you’re there, you’ll likely stay there forever. 

Yessss she's heavily influential

Like, when people talk about my fave the fact that he's the best selling solo artist in history is maybe the tenth thing they bring up after the music, the impact, the dancing, the legacy, the pure influence that exists in every pop star today

Gaga's definitely built a similar legacy. In 50 years nobody's gonna care that DWAS slayed the charts for a year or whatever. They're gonna talk about how influential her style and attitude is on every pop star that came after her  

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4 minutes ago, PartySick said:

...even Gaga is making chart obsessive moves.

Like promoting her singles! She looooooves doing that!

17 minutes ago, PartySick said:

DWAS was added to Mayhem purely because it was a hit and in spite of the fact that she is CLEARLY the featured artist (she has all of two lines without Bruno)

Btw I counted manually and he sings a grand total of 30 seconds more than her. While DWAS was initially intended to be standalone, I feel like she was the one who wanted it on the album, considering the whole concept of MAYHEM.

What all the stans forget is that all of her collaborations, fully released as singles, are hits. They keep using "Collabga" as a supposed insult, but forget the situation THEIR FAV IS IN. Embarassing. Good luck making music with a jazz legend and getting a crowd of 2.5 million