MOT 3,655 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 My understanding is that the medicaid cuts won't happen till 2027. Does anyone know is the same true for snap ? If the Dems were to flip both houses in 2026 (BIG if), would it be possible for them to reverse this bill, or could Trump just veto that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 7,213 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 7 hours ago, Shadow said: One has to wonder how many read it... It reminds me of the bank bailout bill where they only had like 48 hours so many didn't get time to read it but were told if they didn't sign it through there may be martial law on the streets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,960 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 The ICE funding is what scares me the most. ICE is pretty much Trump's personal gestapo. Right now, they're starting with immigrants. Then it's going to be non-white people. Then it's going to be LGBTQ+ people. Then it's going to be non-MAGAs. Then it's going to be anyone who pisses off Trump at any given moment. He wants a dictatorship, and he has installed loyalists who are determined to see it through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 28,099 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 1 hour ago, MOT said: My understanding is that the medicaid cuts won't happen till 2027. Does anyone know is the same true for snap ? If the Dems were to flip both houses in 2026 (BIG if), would it be possible for them to reverse this bill, or could Trump just veto that ? So depends which type of veto got used (which would depend on when the bill is passed as well). For a standard veto the Democrats would need a 2/3rds majority in the House - which would be 290 yes votes. It would require a miracle in the current US political map for the Democrats to get 290 House seats so they'd need to rely on some how getting a sizeable minority of Republicans to back them. So I don't think they could prevent a standard veto. The other veto is the pocket veto. So the rule goes is that if a bill reaches the president's desk they get 10 days (excluding sundays) to return it with objections (the standard veto), if it isn't returned or signed within 10 days it becomes law. However, if the bill reaches the president's desk and isn't signed or returned AND congress adjourns within the 10 days - the bill fails to become law which is a pocket veto. There are ways around this but its complicated and with SCOTUS stacked against the Dems they'd be at risk. So realistically. Yes, Trump could just veto any reversal. The gays know how to party Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraPalmer 1,773 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 i really wish i could afford to just get out of here. i’m deeply disturbed by and ashamed of this country. i’m a woman, i insist, it’s my life ♀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 110,012 Posted July 4, 2025 Author Share Posted July 4, 2025 6 hours ago, ALGAYDO said: As am immigration myself, I have chosen to voluntarily go back to Mexico to avoid getting sent to a third country or being sent to a “detention facility” so I am gonna be busy packing my **** lol thanks, Americans. I was brought to this country BY FORCE when I was 2 years old, and now I have to re-locate to a foreign country (TO ME) because you Americans hate us Mexicans lol thanks. I’ll never forget this. I truly hope you don’t have to leave. You’re American and this administration doesn’t change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamartia 3,341 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 I'm sorry but like... the response to someone creating Nazi Germany 2.0 is not to try and vote against them. I know that's easy to say as someone who isn't in the US, but for Dems to throw their hands up and go 'ah well, we tried, sowwy ' is not good enough. I don't understand why anyone is still playing the rules when they do not matter whatsoever. It's infuriating "I lied. I lied!" (Germanotta, 2025) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa 997 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 12 hours ago, phantasmas said: soooo.... is Mayhem Ball cancelled or naww??? Yes, I'll gladly take your tickets When I saw you for the very first time Looked like Fred Astaire, drinking your red wine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 110,012 Posted July 4, 2025 Author Share Posted July 4, 2025 Trump has officially signed it into law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagini 4,302 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 7 hours ago, hamartia said: I'm sorry but like... the response to someone creating Nazi Germany 2.0 is not to try and vote against them. I know that's easy to say as someone who isn't in the US, but for Dems to throw their hands up and go 'ah well, we tried, sowwy ' is not good enough. I don't understand why anyone is still playing the rules when they do not matter whatsoever. It's infuriating Exactly this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoresup 3,452 Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 Imagine how different our lives would be right now if Kamala won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,507 Posted July 5, 2025 Share Posted July 5, 2025 18 hours ago, Flippy said: Wait, are you really leaving? I’m terrified since my brother and my mom still don’t have any type of status and this is getting worse… Still debating it with family but we’re mostly sure it’ll be for the best, the good news is we have a lot of family in mexico (Jalisco, to be exact) so I will have a support-net if we do end up leaving. We’re thinking of selling most of our stuff and just taking the important things (like our pets, sentimental items, cash, etc.) with us and just leaving the rest behind. It’s been tough having these conversations with my family and friends but this is the state of the US right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 1,733 Posted July 5, 2025 Share Posted July 5, 2025 Well there goes my medicaid application 😞 i have a surgery i need and can’t afford health care 😭 not actually but d**n. I need bullet notes on what this bill is doing bc i tried to read earlier and my brain started disassociating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 1,733 Posted July 5, 2025 Share Posted July 5, 2025 9 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: Still debating it with family but we’re mostly sure it’ll be for the best, the good news is we have a lot of family in mexico (Jalisco, to be exact) so I will have a support-net if we do end up leaving. We’re thinking of selling most of our stuff and just taking the important things (like our pets, sentimental items, cash, etc.) with us and just leaving the rest behind. It’s been tough having these conversations with my family and friends but this is the state of the US right now Please be safe if you do. We DO want you here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippy 14,674 Posted July 5, 2025 Share Posted July 5, 2025 2 hours ago, ALGAYDO said: Still debating it with family but we’re mostly sure it’ll be for the best, the good news is we have a lot of family in mexico (Jalisco, to be exact) so I will have a support-net if we do end up leaving. We’re thinking of selling most of our stuff and just taking the important things (like our pets, sentimental items, cash, etc.) with us and just leaving the rest behind. It’s been tough having these conversations with my family and friends but this is the state of the US right now Feel free to reach out on IG. I’d love to see if I can help you/your family as much as possible. I understand completely though… We were having that conversation earlier today as well. TMBT 3.22.11 // TBTWB 1.17.13 // ArtRAVE 6.3.14 // C2CT 5.28.15 // TJWT 8.13.17 // CWT 9.8.22 // TMB 7.22.25 & 7.24.25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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