Ladle Ghoulash 22,731 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 9 minutes ago, lastpopicon said: Horrible news ngl, totc predicted #49 and we needed top 50 to beat concurrency.. So close.. Once again her team falls a bit short at the end, first with the peak, now with the longevity, abra was/is still a huge sucess but it deserved better in the US. Yeah, the only missteps I can think of are not releasing remixes, physicals, and dropping the official instrumental to drive up streams, but tbh not really sure what else they could’ve done. People talk about them not doing enough promo, but a lot of old school conventional promo doesn’t really move the needle anymore (live TV performances have negligible impact, radio deals have marginal impact due to falling listenership etc). We have forgotten our public MANNERS 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 3,159 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I wish the OP mentioned that it went recurrent. People who haven’t followed charts are going to think this means it just fell off and was some kind of flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obobo 3,057 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Why does the US music space feel so separate from the rest of the world? 9 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmie25 18,071 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) Are you guys legit like.. You need to realise just how much this song was promoted online, from the mv, the dance, live performances, radio, more tiktoks, playlists etc etc. Aside from remixes and physicals like they pushed "Abracadabra" hard. Edited July 1 by Starmie25 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,123 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Ok Gaga, now it’s time for VIY, Zombieboy, or Garden of Eden 🦠🧙♀️🥀📸🎉👻🕺🧟💊💖☎️🔪👤🐺🌱🌎 2 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 3,159 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Just now, Starmie25 said: Joanne promotion? Are you guys legit like.. You need to realise just how much this song was promoted online, from the mv, the dance, live performances, radio, more tiktoks, playlists etc. I don’t understand how Joanne Promotion is even an insult. That era was far better than the eras of the other two “pink” albums, even if the music wasn’t everyone’s favorite. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmie25 18,071 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) 21 minutes ago, RochestrMonstr said: I don’t understand how Joanne Promotion is even an insult. That era was far better than the eras of the other two “pink” albums, even if the music wasn’t everyone’s favorite. True. Joanne promotion was more traditional album rollouts, however with Chromatica/Mayhem they were aiming for more modern, different promo approach, especially with Mayhem and it worked. Edited July 1 by Starmie25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmie25 18,071 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 35 minutes ago, Emvee said: Damn. Giving the little revisionists ammo to shade Abra in the future Ammo? But the song did real well. You guys need to stop feeling so insecure about her and start giving Gaga bit more credit. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 3,159 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 7 minutes ago, Starmie25 said: True. Joanne promotion was more traditional album rollouts, however with Chromatica/Mayhem they were aiming for more modern, different promo approach, especially with Mayhem and it worked. I would think Chromatica being abandoned and left to rot would have been a better comparison if that user was trying to criticize Debra’s promotion. (Not that there was anything to criticize in the case of Debra, as it was promoted well and did well). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,326 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Starmie25 said: Ammo? But the song did real well. You guys need to stop feeling so insecure about her and start giving Gaga bit more credit. I’m not saying they would be correct. And how are you interpreting my comment as discrediting her? Let’s lot pretend that LMs don’t use any little excuse to shade her past work- especially in the context of new work that is more successful. People shaded Judas for a long time before its revival in spite of being one of her most iconic career moments. Revisionism in this fan base IS real. Edited July 1 by Emvee 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 48,260 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 if her team/label doesn't care, why should we? they know how to promote a song but they didn't bother with some basic tactics cus they're simply not invested in chart positions her team isn't incompetent, they just have different priorities than impressing stan twitter mother, what must i do? 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 12,954 Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 33 minutes ago, RochestrMonstr said: I wish the OP mentioned that it went recurrent. People who haven’t followed charts are going to think this means it just fell off and was some kind of flop. I edited the topic. he/him/his 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 9,856 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Abra was a huge success even if Billboard is so outdated and manipulated and unable to reflect that songs true impact. Everyone knows it, everyone loves it. This whole “recurrent” thing is weird if billboard is letting songs chart just from album releases, there’s no needing anything to be released as a single, so why have rules about recurrent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM MAYHEM 410 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 That means it's time for another single, a summer single actually (HBDUWM) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 115,807 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 ok time for nivish into oo So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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