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During the conversation with Smallzy, OneRepublic's Ryan Tedder admitted to using AI while creating songs

• “There’s a couple of different AI companies that allow me to input my idea and then tell it what I want it to do, to sound like, and then it’ll pop out the other end. And what that does is saves me half a day of work…It’s all s–t that I would have to do anyway, but it saved me,” Ryan explained.
"I'm like give me something that feels like sitting on the dock of the bay, 1960s or whatever year but faster tempo. Just give me something in that in that spirit.  It might spit out three or four. I might take a chunk of one and go, "Ooh, that sounds like a sample I could use. I'll put that into a track, change the pitch on it, add some reverb. Now I've got this really cool sample sounding texture in the back of a song that sounds expensive and tasty and and really nice aesthetic." So that's the extent that I've used it.

•  “It is changing music…it’s changing it from a creative perspective, I’ve gotten cuts because for instance, if I’m pitching a song to a female artist, historically I would either just leave me on singing the demo or occasionally I would hire a female demo singer to come in and replace me which they call a scratch vocal…but with AI, I started probably 18 months ago replacing my voice,” he explained.

“Like if I wanted to do a song that sounded like Ariana Grande, I’d sing it like Ariana in my way, process it, put the song back in and all of a sudden you’re like ‘Oh my god this is amazing,’” he continued. 
“So I started pitching a song doing that and it started working to tremendous effect…holy cow, it works.”

 

•  “When it comes to lyrics, ChatGPT lyrics has become the joke. Inside of songwriting sessions, you’ll be like ‘Man, that s–t sounds so ChatGPT’ like that has become the punchline. The lyrics are so bad that it’s so ChatGPT.”

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TheMontebello

How can he not realize he is literally feeding AI with his work? If it comes to a point where AI can simply create music like a professional, he will be redundant. No one will need him!

 

Although, dare I say, he's not needed today either. Not with the awful songs he's been writing.

 

Edit: It has come to my attention he is one of the writers on Sine from Above but there were 10 writers in total so let's give the credit to the other nine :laughga:

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14 minutes ago, TheMontebello said:

Edit: It has come to my attention he is one of the writers on Sine from Above but there were 10 writers in total so let's give the credit to the other nine :laughga:

because it was an Elton song and was written by AI MAGA OneRepublican guy years before Gaga worked on Chromatique

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Not surprising coming from the guy who practically gave Beyoncé and Kelly Clarkson (almost) the same song.

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I really thought people were gonna be smarter than this and reject AI for frivolous things. That's my bad for having faith in humanity I guess. 

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Calm down y'all he's saying he's only using it to change his voice from male to female, he's not asking the AI to create a whole song or write lyrics :laughga:

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26 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Calm down y'all he's saying he's only using it to change his voice from male to female, he's not asking the AI to create a whole song or write lyrics :laughga:

^^This.

AI being used as a tool is great.  It just shouldn’t be a crutch people lean on when they don’t have to.  A man writing a song for a woman and using AI to make their vocals feminine in a demo is completely reasonable.

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I don't get it. Like in theory I do, but can someone please explain to me: Why are y'all celebrating ChatGPT for helping you self-diagnose disorders, figuring out how certain symptoms are indicators for whatever illness etc. - which I'm all here for, I'm right here celebrating with you! It can be a life saving tool in that regard.

But the general consensus regarding AI seems to have become "It's bad, it's replacing artists, preventing professionals from getting paid" and so on. I used to be a bit more skeptical about that, but I had many discussions over the years and now I actually agree with that sentiment as well.

So ethically speaking, is it now acceptable to turn to ChatGPT instead of paying a professional - be it the artist OR the health expert who is now losing out on business - or are we holding people working in certain fields to different standards than others??

Honest question and not meant in a cynical way or something. I'd seriously like to know how people feel about this, because I feel like the moral implications around using and normalizing AI in our daily lives just get more blurry and less black and white with each day. Things are changing rapidly.

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41 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Calm down y'all he's saying he's only using it to change his voice from male to female, he's not asking the AI to create a whole song or write lyrics :laughga:

Sure but he did use the scratch vocalist often, and he's a Singer, many producers don't sing. Its another category thatll becomes obsolete.

Back up singers, not needed

Demo singers, not needed

Ghost singers ahah 

He's a machine. Its Song After Song for him its like having automated machines. But this Is already such a difficult industry to enter. Cutting these processes Will limit so much new commers, be It singers, producers, technicians. He's Just focused on the task at hand, massive production... 

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25 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Calm down y'all he's saying he's only using it to change his voice from male to female, he's not asking the AI to create a whole song or write lyrics :laughga:

he said he also uses it to create music:
“There’s a couple of different AI companies that allow me to input my idea and then tell it what I want it to do, to sound like, and then it’ll pop out the other end. And what that does is saves me half a day of work…It’s all s–t that I would have to do anyway, but it saved me,” Ryan explained.
"I'm like give me something that feels like sitting on the dock of the bay, 1960s or whatever year but faster tempo. Just give me something in that in that spirit.  It might spit out three or four. I might take a chunk of one and go, "Ooh, that sounds like a sample I could use. I'll put that into a track, change the pitch on it, add some reverb. Now I've got this really cool sample sounding texture in the back of a song that sounds expensive and tasty and and really nice aesthetic." So that's the extent that I've used it.

to get someone's AI voice, you have to use their past work to train the model. you feed the AI with works of other songwriters that can be used in the future to create lyrics, melodies.

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20 minutes ago, Teletubby said:

"I'm like give me something that feels like sitting on the dock of the bay, 1960s or whatever year but faster tempo. Just give me something in that in that spirit.  It might spit out three or four. I might take a chunk of one and go, "Ooh, that sounds like a sample I could use. I'll put that into a track, change the pitch on it, add some reverb. Now I've got this really cool sample sounding texture in the back of a song that sounds expensive and tasty and and really nice aesthetic."
 

You did not put this part in your OP :giggle:

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